2015 - The Indy some of us missed ! ! ! - Page 3

Mark Yacavone · 09-10-2015, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Super Sport

While 1970-73 Firebirds may look the same, 1973 is a unique year for the front of a Firebird. Not what shows on the outside but what is considered impact zone behind the front fascia. The rulebook says that energy absorbing apparatus may not be removed. All the energy absorbing stuff on the front of a 1973 Firebird is heavy. If it was missing, that is probably why the car was not allowed to run.

You are correct about the 73 being an energy absorbing setup behind the grill.
The car in question was a 71 earlier in the year, but was entered as a 73, so you may be right about that too.

west coast · 09-10-2015, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Super Sport

While 1970-73 Firebirds may look the same, 1973 is a unique year for the front of a Firebird. Not what shows on the outside but what is considered impact zone behind the front fascia. The rulebook says that energy absorbing apparatus may not be removed. All the energy absorbing stuff on the front of a 1973 Firebird is heavy. If it was missing, that is probably why the car was not allowed to run.

I believe that rule changed a couple years ago will have to look again.

Dwight Southerland · 09-10-2015, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ALMACK

One other tidbit of info about the 2015 US Nationals...

Stock Eliminator got it's first 11 second qualifying pass with an engine only firing on 4 spark plugs.

Congratulations to Mr. Buth on that one, again.

I ran an 11 second qualifying pass on 7 cylinders at Indy once. Does that count?

Billy Nees · 09-10-2015, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by west coast

I believe that rule changed a couple years ago will have to look again.

2015 Rulebook, section 10A,page 6; Bumpers,Energy-absorbing apparatus may NOT be removed.
It's still in the East Coast Rulebook!

west coast · 09-10-2015, 11:02 AM

Yep still there. I found it in the PDF version on page 8

travis sturgell 3339 · 09-10-2015, 01:18 PM

The only difference in the 3 1973 firebirds were 2 had the grills and 1 didn't they brought all 3 and look at them same time. The racer admits he should have had the grilles change before. Problem is you had 1 tech guy that is a Pontiac nut who caught it. But if you do that to one guy you have to make sure every brand of car is right to.

Scott Loge · 09-10-2015, 08:18 PM

Thank you to all that posted updates! Also to Jim B, congrats and u are the yardstick many will measure with! Indy is what it should be and congrats to all that attended! Maybe again someday, a lot of work to do

Jason · 09-11-2015, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by travis sturgell 3339

The only difference in the 3 1973 firebirds were 2 had the grills and 1 didn't they brought all 3 and look at them same time. The racer admits he should have had the grilles change before. Problem is you had 1 tech guy that is a Pontiac nut who caught it. But if you do that to one guy you have to make sure every brand of car is right to.

Thanks to that Pontiac nut now everyone knows to be on the lookout for fake 1973 Firebirds. There seems to be a lot more to making a 1973 Firebird than just changing the grille.

Dick Butler · 09-11-2015, 09:23 AM

And when Farmer was there.... Go to a junk yard and get the lens cover for the dome light and return to tech to prove you have it before you can get tech card..... did it and got teched..

a pontiac · 09-11-2015, 10:11 AM

the problem.... remaining 2 fb's are converted 70-72s w/73 grilles and multi event winners over several seasons.

09-10-2015, 11:02 AM	#25
west coast Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Rainy Washington Posts: 609 Likes: 12 Liked 223 Times in 73 Posts	Re: 2015 - The Indy some of us missed ! ! ! Yep still there. I found it in the PDF version on page 8 __________________ James Boyce 6052 K/SA Stock National record holder 2015,2018,2 times in 2022,2023

09-10-2015, 01:18 PM	#26
travis sturgell 3339 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Paris Illinois Posts: 16 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 2015 - The Indy some of us missed ! ! ! The only difference in the 3 1973 firebirds were 2 had the grills and 1 didn't they brought all 3 and look at them same time. The racer admits he should have had the grilles change before. Problem is you had 1 tech guy that is a Pontiac nut who caught it. But if you do that to one guy you have to make sure every brand of car is right to.

09-10-2015, 08:18 PM	#27
Scott Loge Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Livermore,Ca Posts: 334 Likes: 15 Liked 145 Times in 32 Posts	Re: 2015 - The Indy some of us missed ! ! ! Thank you to all that posted updates! Also to Jim B, congrats and u are the yardstick many will measure with! Indy is what it should be and congrats to all that attended! Maybe again someday, a lot of work to do

09-11-2015, 09:23 AM	#29
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: 2015 - The Indy some of us missed ! ! ! And when Farmer was there.... Go to a junk yard and get the lens cover for the dome light and return to tech to prove you have it before you can get tech card..... did it and got teched..

09-11-2015, 10:11 AM	#30
a pontiac Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 65 Likes: 3 Liked 36 Times in 11 Posts	Re: 2015 - The Indy some of us missed ! ! ! the problem.... remaining 2 fb's are converted 70-72s w/73 grilles and multi event winners over several seasons.