1970 and 1971 ~ 'H/Stock Wars'

Drew Papsun · 10-21-2015, 10:37 AM

Hello Paul,
Please contact me.
Thanks,
Drew Papsun
Norwalk, CT.
203-847-4678

Rich Biebel · 10-21-2015, 07:30 PM

350 Chevy II's pretty much ruled the class most of 1970-1971

Our H/S record stood for quite sometime at 12.25.
At some point (I don't recall what year) Class wt breaks changed a lot and lower classed cars wound up in H/S

Warren -Register held the J/S record (I think it was) at 12.22 or 12.23....
Their car combination was moved into H/S and their record was then printed in ND as the H/S class record.

I wrote a letter to ND about it and it was printed in the letters section.
I was unhappy that our record was erased but meant no disrespect to the new record holders knowing how fast their car was.

We ran faster than that 12.25 a few times....and much faster than the MPH record.

Probably the best Chevy II H/S of that time around my area was Larry Lombardo's.....I saw him run some 12.teens and he won 2 WCS races I believe that year.

Another good Chevy II was Tom Elks from Div 3

Also a very good car in H/S was Jack Marks....anOlds Cutlass from Div 3.....
.
Both cars got in at the first 2 Summernationals......when we missed the show.....

I worked very hard trying to do well with our car......but it was tough and things just went against us at the big races....

Paul Ceasrine · 10-22-2015, 09:05 AM

'H/Stock Wars'

Weight Break ..... 10.50 to 10.99 Wt/HP

* 1968 Nova SS350 ...... 350/295 HP
vs.
* 1957 Corvette ............ 283/250 HP 'Fuel Injection'

Paul Ceasrine · 10-22-2015, 11:47 PM

Niche

In 1971,

You could get a 'Plain Jane' Barracuda with the 383/300 HP. They
came through with a Holley Carburetor.

Shipping Weight ........ #3241 lbs. ~ 300 HP = 10.80 Wt./HP
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Not to be confused with the 1971 'Cuda 383, which had more
'Bells-and-Whistles'.

Shipping Weight ...... #3427 lbs. ~ 300 HP = 11.42 Wt./HP

Paul Ceasrine · 10-25-2015, 07:24 AM

Fred,

1970 and 1971 ............ H/SA ...... {10.50 to 10.99 Wt/HP}

Was reserved for the 1962 Dodge {Model 440} Station Wagon {2-Seat / 6-Passenger}

Engine ...... 383/343 HP ~ 'Dual-Quad' and Solid Cam.

Weight ......... #3637 lbs. ~ 343 HP = 10.60 Wt/HP

oldskool · 10-02-2021, 02:39 PM

There were some '71 Firebird H/Stockers. Anybody remember seeing them do any good ?

According to this list, Max Sterling won the H/S class & Gary Moore was RU, at Indy '71. Hey, that ain't bad. '71 Pontiac Birds got class Winner & RU @ Indy !

http://classracer.com/classforum/sho...70&postcount=1

tommy d · 10-02-2021, 02:46 PM

Cobra Jet Fairlanes as well.

10-21-2015, 10:37 AM	#1
Drew Papsun Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Norwalk, CT Posts: 2 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 1970 and 1971 ~ 'H/Stock Wars' Hello Paul, Please contact me. Thanks, Drew Papsun Norwalk, CT. 203-847-4678

10-21-2015, 07:30 PM	#2
Rich Biebel VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern New Jersey suburbs Posts: 2,314 Likes: 25 Liked 544 Times in 213 Posts	Re: 1970 and 1971 ~ 'H/Stock Wars' 350 Chevy II's pretty much ruled the class most of 1970-1971 Our H/S record stood for quite sometime at 12.25. At some point (I don't recall what year) Class wt breaks changed a lot and lower classed cars wound up in H/S Warren -Register held the J/S record (I think it was) at 12.22 or 12.23.... Their car combination was moved into H/S and their record was then printed in ND as the H/S class record. I wrote a letter to ND about it and it was printed in the letters section. I was unhappy that our record was erased but meant no disrespect to the new record holders knowing how fast their car was. We ran faster than that 12.25 a few times....and much faster than the MPH record. Probably the best Chevy II H/S of that time around my area was Larry Lombardo's.....I saw him run some 12.teens and he won 2 WCS races I believe that year. Another good Chevy II was Tom Elks from Div 3 Also a very good car in H/S was Jack Marks....anOlds Cutlass from Div 3..... . Both cars got in at the first 2 Summernationals......when we missed the show..... I worked very hard trying to do well with our car......but it was tough and things just went against us at the big races.... __________________ Rich Biebel S/C 1479 Stock 147R Last edited by Rich Biebel; 10-21-2015 at 07:32 PM.

10-22-2015, 11:47 PM	#4
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: 1970 and 1971 ~ 'H/Stock Wars' *Niche* In 1971, You could get a 'Plain Jane' Barracuda with the 383/300 HP. They came through with a Holley Carburetor. Shipping Weight ........ #3241 lbs. ~ 300 HP = 10.80 Wt./HP ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Not to be confused with the 1971 'Cuda 383, which had more 'Bells-and-Whistles'. Shipping Weight ...... #3427 lbs. ~ 300 HP = 11.42 Wt./HP Last edited by Paul Ceasrine; 10-23-2015 at 05:21 AM.

10-25-2015, 07:24 AM	#5
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: 1970 and 1971 ~ 'H/Stock Wars' Fred, *1970 and 1971 ............ H/SA ...... {10.50 to 10.99 Wt/HP}* Was reserved for the 1962 Dodge {Model 440} Station Wagon {2-Seat / 6-Passenger} Engine ...... 383/343 HP ~ 'Dual-Quad' and Solid Cam. Weight ......... #3637 lbs. ~ 343 HP = 10.60 Wt/HP Last edited by Paul Ceasrine; 10-25-2015 at 12:55 PM.

10-02-2021, 02:39 PM	#6
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 747 Times in 362 Posts	Re: 1970 and 1971 ~ 'H/Stock Wars' There were some '71 Firebird H/Stockers. Anybody remember seeing them do any good ? According to this list, Max Sterling won the H/S class & Gary Moore was RU, at Indy '71. Hey, that ain't bad. '71 Pontiac Birds got class Winner & RU @ Indy ! http://classracer.com/classforum/sho...70&postcount=1 Attached Thumbnails Last edited by oldskool; 10-02-2021 at 03:19 PM.

10-22-2015, 09:05 AM	#3
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: 1970 and 1971 ~ 'H/Stock Wars' *'H/Stock Wars'* *Weight Break ..... 10.50 to 10.99 Wt/HP* * 1968 Nova SS350 ...... 350/295 HP *vs.* * 1957 Corvette ............ 283/250 HP 'Fuel Injection'

10-02-2021, 02:46 PM	#7
tommy d Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 830 Likes: 1,613 Liked 359 Times in 135 Posts	Re: 1970 and 1971 ~ 'H/Stock Wars' Cobra Jet Fairlanes as well. __________________ Who owns this car, with the peace sign,mag wheels, and four on the floor?