tranny cooler

impstocker · 11-09-2015, 06:59 PM

OK, possible dumn question since the last Stocker I built was a stick car, do I need to run a tranny cooler? I know in my buddies Comp car we don't and honestly never look for ones at the track Turbo 350

Will Lamprecht I/SA 65 Impala 396/325 in progress

Mike Pearson · 11-09-2015, 07:12 PM

No.

Mark Yacavone · 11-09-2015, 09:59 PM

Yes.

Ed Wright · 11-09-2015, 11:10 PM

My Pro Trans cooler line fittings are plugged, evidently bypassed internally. Ditto my Rossler. No cooler provisions on either. Evidently not needed.

Dragsinger · 11-09-2015, 11:35 PM

Will,

This is personal opinion, I have no testing to back up my opinion. It simply seems reasonable to me that a trans cooler is a good thing.

My thought is I am always look at being in the late rounds, in the final and if the last two or three runs come close together [which is to be expected] a cooler will be a very good thing.

Consider this chain of events, with a cooler anytime the engine is running fluid is passing through it. So, late rounds, things are happening quickly, on the return road, pulling up in the lanes, moving into the water box, fluid is flowing through the cooler.

That has to be some advantage over no cooling ability. I seems to me the fluid temp has potential to be more reasonable than without a cooler.

Mike Pearson · 11-10-2015, 09:02 AM

Add a deep finned aluminum pan . I do not know of any stock super stock guys running a cooler. The car is not running long enough for it to do much good. The fluid is only being cooled when the engine is running. Like Ed Wright said most race prepped transmissions are plugged and bypassed internally. Also one less spot for a leak.

Dragsinger · 11-10-2015, 09:11 AM

Mike, you know of one ss racer running a cooler

me

buzzinhalfdozen · 11-10-2015, 10:36 AM

Ran my t-350 and proflite with no cooler for a few years, never had a temp gauge on it. This past year decided to race local as my grandson was starting in the junior ranks. So I put a cooler on and a temp gauge, after 1 run trans temp 160, after going a few rounds it would quickly run up to 195-200 would turn fan on that is attached to the cooler by the time I got back to the trailer it would be back to 170 or so. Since I never monitored it before I can't say the cooler helped, but I'd say it can't hurt. I called and asked about a cooler on each trans and was told it wasn't needed. My understanding is the smaller, looser convertors produce more heat, I run a 7 inch 8000 stall, your results may vary.

Pistol Pete · 11-10-2015, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark yacavone

yes.

x2

njk53 · 11-10-2015, 11:49 AM

If you have an in-tank transmission oil cooler (TOC) in your radiator, I would use it because it will help put heat into the transmission faster than without one.

As far as needing a TOC Auxiliary Cooler, I personally think one isn't needed because the transmission will not make enough heat in one pass to require a cooler. But, you also want to be prepared if you have to make multiple passes which will produce enough heat to hurt the trans.
We have used our in-tank radiator TOC for years with no problem.

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impstocker Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Wingdale, NY Posts: 302 Likes: 27 Liked 53 Times in 16 Posts	tranny cooler OK, possible dumn question since the last Stocker I built was a stick car, do I need to run a tranny cooler? I know in my buddies Comp car we don't and honestly never look for ones at the track Turbo 350 Will Lamprecht I/SA 65 Impala 396/325 in progress

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Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 389 Times in 169 Posts	Re: tranny cooler My Pro Trans cooler line fittings are plugged, evidently bypassed internally. Ditto my Rossler. No cooler provisions on either. Evidently not needed. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

11-09-2015, 11:35 PM	#5
Dragsinger VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Liberty City [East Texas] Posts: 1,760 Likes: 5 Liked 99 Times in 60 Posts	Re: tranny cooler Will, This is personal opinion, I have no testing to back up my opinion. It simply seems reasonable to me that a trans cooler is a good thing. My thought is I am always look at being in the late rounds, in the final and if the last two or three runs come close together [which is to be expected] a cooler will be a very good thing. Consider this chain of events, with a cooler anytime the engine is running fluid is passing through it. So, late rounds, things are happening quickly, on the return road, pulling up in the lanes, moving into the water box, fluid is flowing through the cooler. That has to be some advantage over no cooling ability. I seems to me the fluid temp has potential to be more reasonable than without a cooler. __________________ Larry Woodfin 471W

11-10-2015, 09:02 AM	#6
Mike Pearson VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,417 Likes: 597 Liked 1,880 Times in 562 Posts	Re: tranny cooler Add a deep finned aluminum pan . I do not know of any stock super stock guys running a cooler. The car is not running long enough for it to do much good. The fluid is only being cooled when the engine is running. Like Ed Wright said most race prepped transmissions are plugged and bypassed internally. Also one less spot for a leak. __________________ Mike Pearson 2485 SS

11-10-2015, 09:11 AM	#7
Dragsinger VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Liberty City [East Texas] Posts: 1,760 Likes: 5 Liked 99 Times in 60 Posts	Re: tranny cooler Mike, you know of one ss racer running a cooler me __________________ Larry Woodfin 471W

11-10-2015, 10:36 AM	#8
buzzinhalfdozen Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bellevue Ohio Posts: 984 Likes: 0 Liked 11 Times in 8 Posts	Re: tranny cooler Ran my t-350 and proflite with no cooler for a few years, never had a temp gauge on it. This past year decided to race local as my grandson was starting in the junior ranks. So I put a cooler on and a temp gauge, after 1 run trans temp 160, after going a few rounds it would quickly run up to 195-200 would turn fan on that is attached to the cooler by the time I got back to the trailer it would be back to 170 or so. Since I never monitored it before I can't say the cooler helped, but I'd say it can't hurt. I called and asked about a cooler on each trans and was told it wasn't needed. My understanding is the smaller, looser convertors produce more heat, I run a 7 inch 8000 stall, your results may vary. __________________ Joe Buchanan SS/BX 3117

11-10-2015, 11:49 AM	#10
njk53 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: East China, MI Posts: 504 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: tranny cooler If you have an in-tank transmission oil cooler (TOC) in your radiator, I would use it because it will help put heat into the transmission faster than without one. As far as needing a TOC Auxiliary Cooler, I personally think one isn't needed because the transmission will not make enough heat in one pass to require a cooler. But, you also want to be prepared if you have to make multiple passes which will produce enough heat to hurt the trans. We have used our in-tank radiator TOC for years with no problem. __________________ Nelson Kowal Stock 345