Going DEEP....

[Tim Ellis]

Hey Toby, you and Jody have some clout, get NHRA to re look at a vote again. I'm with you buddy.

[Signman]

Originally Posted by Toby Lang

I think the main reason most people didn't like deep staging was because most of the racers doing it at the time were good racers who won a lot, so sure, it was definitely causing a lot of problems for the racers in the opposing lane.

BS, they're still winning and driving the finish line.
Holding the tree, slow staging, special rules that's why it was voted down.
The majority were and are shallow staging, deep staging was and is a minority.

Make deep part of the timing system where an opponent won't need to know or adjust thier staging process or see a light go out.

[Ron Ortiz]

Billy Nees posted a reply to my Post #86; "Umm, Ron it's time for your meds."

Thank you Billy for your concern, I am really not sure what happened. I was sitting there reading this thread eating a Snickers bar, then suddenly I went on this rant after reading Dan Fletcher and James Perrone observations and opinions. I responded with;

"According to your last statement Mr. Fletcher, this subject should come to an abrupt end. Between you and Perrone the smoke and mirrors of this subject has become clear.

I'll worry about me and you guys worry about me and my world is way more fun.

I worry about you and you worry about you and I'll watch you race the next round."

What I should have said was "I don't care what you do, mind your own business" Then I went on a rampage describing all the different complaints I have read and condensed into a run and return to my pit area.

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"If I want to confuse someone, I'll roll in both lights and continue through, then back into the bulb. I'll then try to go red and hope you do to, but by a worst margin. While going down track I will veer over close to your lane suddenly (to get a closer look for decision making). just before I get to the finish line I will slam on the brakes to smoke my tires violently. Get to the end of the track, turn around and stop to dump some fluids out, wait for my friends so I can give them some lead that I accidentally found and then proceed past the scales and back into them as I some how forgot to weigh. I'll get into a discussion about the validity of my fuel, start complaining about everybody else, how they are illegal and a bunch of whiners. I'll go back to my pit area in the back forty and wait for the papers to be served for my drug & alcohol testing with a beer in hand."

I apologize if I have confused anyone and I will not be eating any more Snickers, with beer at least. BTW, I do not take any medication that is not organic. And yes, I don't care what you do, mind your own business.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA caring for what people think.

[goinbroke2]

Damn snickers......lol

[Billy Nees]

Ron, peanut allergy?

[Ron Ortiz]

No allergy, just nuts.

[Mickey Whaley]

Originally Posted by Ron Ortiz

No allergy, just nuts.

were they deez

[Ellis V Buth]

Originally Posted by HR9121

It must be a Yankee thing, lots of great bracket racers around here and hardly ever see anyone deep staging. Only time I ever see someone do it is when Beard has one of his Gazillion dollar bracket races that draws all them hitters from up north trying to get a piece of the pie.
But hey whatever floats your boat, I'm like the guy up here that has won more Wallys than everyone else combined that has replied to this thread, I could care less if the dude in the other lane stages the thing backwards.

Actually, quite a few North Carolinian bracket racers go DEEP...some of them in 6.4 and quicker cars.


As a shallow stager in everything I race (including an 18.xx second pickup truck) I have never tried the deep staging thing...and it never bothers me when the guy in the other lane is going deep. Even in the Pinto, which is definitely a "slow stocker" by all accounts of the definition. However, I do think it is strange for this process to be completely outlawed in this class. But I wasn't an active driver yet whenever these rules came about...I was still just cutting my teeth in the Jr. Dragster ranks so when I raced stock for the first time I understood that the rule was such.

[JOE ZOOM]

Originally Posted by Ellis V Buth

Actually, quite a few North Carolinian bracket racers go DEEP...some of them in 6.4 and quicker cars.


As a shallow stager in everything I race (including an 18.xx second pickup truck) I have never tried the deep staging thing...and it never bothers me when the guy in the other lane is going deep. Even in the Pinto, which is definitely a "slow stocker" by all accounts of the definition. However, I do think it is strange for this process to be completely outlawed in this class. But I wasn't an active driver yet whenever these rules came about...I was still just cutting my teeth in the Jr. Dragster ranks so when I raced stock for the first time I understood that the rule was such.

Hey Ellis,...I was watching my buddy Bob Mullaney,at Piedmount over Thanksgiving
On Motormania.Bob was just one of many that we're going deep as you said in fast cars.P.S. In 1998 Bob was the Division 1 stock champ,driving a 13.80 wagon.Going Deep and a 2 step( cheater)....correct me if I'm wrong ..but I believe it maybe the slowest car to win the Division....Also it was a car I was proud to be part of.....Joe Mocci

[John H186]

Joe, the car Bucks was running at Piedmont was mine. We doubled it and he got down to 6 cars in the 20k on Saturday and got down to 10 cars Sunday in the 5k when they split due to rain. As expected, Bob was a machine and yes, he and I were deep. Most of the guys there were deep and the 20k winner was also. It's really just car and driver preference as to who does what. Yes you can be very good shallow, no doubt but a lot of footbrake bracket guys prefer deep.