IHRA Division 1 Schedule

GallopinGhost · 12-15-2015, 02:26 PM

Richmond just re-paved the track........and now no pro-am ????

Rich67stang · 12-15-2015, 02:59 PM

How can you put a Div1 race on the same date as another Div1 race and expect success? I enjoy IHRA and support them as much as possible but this schedule is not accommodating to racing both sanctions. Tough decisions to make...

gbur · 12-15-2015, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GallopinGhost

Richmond just re-paved the track........and now no pro-am ????

just got a message from Richmond Dragway , I asked about this , stated it wasn't worth the agravation

HR9121 · 12-15-2015, 04:09 PM

MIR was on top of Bristol last year also, I think I might do MIR this year. Bristol just isn't much fun when it's 90 something degrees.

Chris Kilraine · 12-15-2015, 06:06 PM

I don't understand how it wasn't worth the aggravation?!?!... Last year they were plagued with rain...it happens. They did a hell of job in 2012 running a double in one day! There was always spectators....

I personally don't like a D1 schedule with only 6 races, when D1 makes up majority of the racers....

gbur · 12-15-2015, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Kilraine

I don't understand how it wasn't worth the aggravation?!?!... Last year they were plagued with rain...it happens. They did a hell of job in 2012 running a double in one day! There was always spectators....

I personally don't like a D1 schedule with only 6 races, when D1 makes up majority of the racers....

and to be short changed by only 6 , when are allowed 7

Chris1529 · 12-15-2015, 08:22 PM

Maybe they think MIR will be better attended by making it an in division for div 9 as well.

Richmond always did a good job, but trying to have it in the spring made rainouts possible. It needed to be a fall race.

I was hoping a few more tracks might try a divisional again this year in OH or KY to make it a little easier on folks from our part of the country to travel, but unfortunately, I would say most probably have the same thoughts that Richmond has. I think the doubles combined with low turnouts and low draw for a regular bracket race that runs until 2am to make any money is hurting the number of tracks wanting to host a pro-am.

Adger Smith · 12-16-2015, 01:47 AM

Guys, Remember it is not necessarily IHRA that is the bad guy here.
Remember they "Sell" points races to tracks in each division. As a track owner you have to weigh the profit and loss of the events you are putting on. To some track owners/promoters it just might not be worth the gamble of paying out the money for any (IHRA or NHRA) divisional event. It takes X number of cars to break even and add in spectator head count for profit. As a former track owner I can tell you just having an event doesn't guarantee your bank account will be in the black after the Points Meet weekend. Could it be that there are a bunch of track owners are watching the racers be "no shows" at these events and the dismal car counts put the tracks in the red. So like the guys at Richmond said "it wasn't worth the aggravation". What most class racers fail to remember or don't want to hear is a track can put on a big bucks bracket bash and have better car counts and go to the bank on Monday with money that will keep the track in the black and operational.
Back in the 70's I could have a 16 or 32 car Modified and Gas meet and pack the house with quality cars and fill the stands with spectators.
I didn't need a points meet to make money.
It is up to the tracks what happens at their facilities, not the sanction bodies.
Please don't shoot the messenger. I'm just telling you how a track owner/promoter usually sees the value of events.

12-15-2015, 02:26 PM	#1
GallopinGhost Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: VA Posts: 230 Likes: 24 Liked 21 Times in 13 Posts	Re: IHRA Division 1 Schedule Richmond just re-paved the track........and now no pro-am ???? __________________ Brian Carpenter Stock 1358

12-15-2015, 02:59 PM	#2
Rich67stang Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Jackson, NJ Posts: 313 Likes: 3 Liked 116 Times in 27 Posts	Re: IHRA Division 1 Schedule How can you put a Div1 race on the same date as another Div1 race and expect success? I enjoy IHRA and support them as much as possible but this schedule is not accommodating to racing both sanctions. Tough decisions to make... __________________ Richard Preiser 1613 FGT/I 1510 C/SA 161 F/DA

12-15-2015, 04:09 PM	#4
HR9121 Live Reporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New Bern, NC Posts: 3,467 Likes: 146 Liked 3,363 Times in 731 Posts	Re: IHRA Division 1 Schedule MIR was on top of Bristol last year also, I think I might do MIR this year. Bristol just isn't much fun when it's 90 something degrees. __________________ James Williamson W200 J/SA. SS/JA

12-15-2015, 06:06 PM	#5
Chris Kilraine Junior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Loretto, PA Posts: 97 Likes: 5 Liked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Re: IHRA Division 1 Schedule I don't understand how it wasn't worth the aggravation?!?!... Last year they were plagued with rain...it happens. They did a hell of job in 2012 running a double in one day! There was always spectators.... I personally don't like a D1 schedule with only 6 races, when D1 makes up majority of the racers....

12-15-2015, 08:22 PM	#7
Chris1529 VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: West Virginia Posts: 1,366 Likes: 6 Liked 70 Times in 29 Posts	Re: IHRA Division 1 Schedule Maybe they think MIR will be better attended by making it an in division for div 9 as well. Richmond always did a good job, but trying to have it in the spring made rainouts possible. It needed to be a fall race. I was hoping a few more tracks might try a divisional again this year in OH or KY to make it a little easier on folks from our part of the country to travel, but unfortunately, I would say most probably have the same thoughts that Richmond has. I think the doubles combined with low turnouts and low draw for a regular bracket race that runs until 2am to make any money is hurting the number of tracks wanting to host a pro-am. __________________ Chris Bowman The Mountain State Mustang 1984 Mustang GT350

12-16-2015, 01:47 AM	#8
Adger Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Texarkana Ark/TX Posts: 2,446 Likes: 575 Liked 880 Times in 311 Posts	Re: IHRA Division 1 Schedule Guys, Remember it is not necessarily IHRA that is the bad guy here. Remember they "Sell" points races to tracks in each division. As a track owner you have to weigh the profit and loss of the events you are putting on. To some track owners/promoters it just might not be worth the gamble of paying out the money for any (IHRA or NHRA) divisional event. It takes X number of cars to break even and add in spectator head count for profit. As a former track owner I can tell you just having an event doesn't guarantee your bank account will be in the black after the Points Meet weekend. Could it be that there are a bunch of track owners are watching the racers be "no shows" at these events and the dismal car counts put the tracks in the red. So like the guys at Richmond said "it wasn't worth the aggravation". What most class racers fail to remember or don't want to hear is a track can put on a big bucks bracket bash and have better car counts and go to the bank on Monday with money that will keep the track in the black and operational. Back in the 70's I could have a 16 or 32 car Modified and Gas meet and pack the house with quality cars and fill the stands with spectators. I didn't need a points meet to make money. It is up to the tracks what happens at their facilities, not the sanction bodies. Please don't shoot the messenger. I'm just telling you how a track owner/promoter usually sees the value of events. __________________ Adger Smith (Former SS) Last edited by Adger Smith; 12-16-2015 at 01:49 AM. Reason: SP