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Old 11-30-2007, 01:22 PM   #1
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Default Re: Mopar 440 racers - time to legalize that shortblock!

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So are the ford guys that run a truck crank still ok ? Have a nice day
In Stock class, as long as you run the same OEM material and stroke as the engine you claim, using a crank in the same family is acceptable. As an example, using a cast crank within the different years of a Chevy small block, as long the stroke is identical, it is okay. However, using a forged crank in an engine that had a cast crank is not acceptable.
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Old 11-30-2007, 03:53 PM   #2
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In Stock class, as long as you run the same OEM material and stroke as the engine you claim, using a crank in the same family is acceptable. As an example, using a cast crank within the different years of a Chevy small block, as long the stroke is identical, it is okay. However, using a forged crank in an engine that had a cast crank is not acceptable.

Incorrect. 440 crank is in the RB family, 413-426W-440 engine size, 2.750" journal size as. RB family as defined by Chrysler.
400 block is in the B family. 361-383-400 engine size as allowable in NHRA competition (other variants predate NHRA allowance for competition). B family as defined by Chrysler.

You can swap a cast crank for a forged crank application as long as the part is OEM and part of the same family. Example. You can use a 396 cast crank from a 265 horsepower Impala in your 375 horsepower Camaro engine for a weight savings. You could also use the standard small bolt rods. These are direct fit, same family applications. Truck crank, boat crank, it would not matter.

Again, "no crossbreeding of parts allowed". Also, "lightening of crankshaft other than normal balance job prohibited" Note: Per NHRA in SS you can turn down main and rod journals as much as you like.


Yes, any intake you can come up with allowable in SS as long as same configuration.

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Old 11-30-2007, 04:18 PM   #3
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Default Re: Mopar 440 racers - time to legalize that shortblock!

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Incorrect. 440 crank is in the RB family, 413-426W-440 engine size, 2.750" journal size as. RB family as defined by Chrysler.
400 block is in the B family. 361-383-400 engine size as allowable in NHRA competition (other variants predate NHRA allowance for competition). B family as defined by Chrysler.

You can swap a cast crank for a forged crank application as long as the part is OEM and part of the same family. Example. You can use a 396 cast crank from a 265 horsepower Impala in your 375 horsepower Camaro engine for a weight savings. You could also use the standard small bolt rods. These are direct fit, same family applications. Truck crank, boat crank, it would not matter.

Again, "no crossbreeding of parts allowed". Also, "lightening of crankshaft other than normal balance job prohibited" Note: Per NHRA in SS you can turn down main and rod journals as much as you like.


Yes, any intake you can come up with allowable in SS as long as same configuration.
Yes, that is exactly why I meant; I consider the RB a different family from the B engine.
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Old 11-30-2007, 04:48 PM   #4
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Rocket post with your real name and I'll continue this discussion.

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Old 11-30-2007, 05:01 PM   #5
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Default Re: Mopar 440 racers - time to legalize that shortblock!

I think the 400 is ok in ss, but not stk. I have been wrong before so don't swear on it.
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:43 PM   #6
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Rocket post with your real name and I'll continue this discussion.

Herb McCandless Jr
But there is nothing to discuss. No grey area. Tech needs to enforce the rules as they are printed. I'm told that is in the works. If not, just as Lynn McCarty said, open it to everybody.
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