TruSTART looks to level the playing field.

[Bruce Noland]

Originally Posted by bill dedman

Bruce Noland wrote:

"some of the slower car racers want an additional accommodation by asking for this red light protection."

Can you rell me what "additional... protection" is afforded by making the situation IDENTICAL (BOTH cars would have an equal chance to red light, now, with the new rule) because in making them equals, there is no "additional... protection." And, if it's truly a small issue, why are you vehemently posting lengthy arguments against it? Especially, if your contention that "We all know it isn't going to happen" is true. so, no worries... LOL!

Vehemently? The situation is not identical. Bill you are showing your keyboard knowledge again. There is nothing identical about giving a racer a clean tree in one lane and asking another racer to wait for 5 or 6 seconds to give pursuit. Now that's a real LOL.

[Peter Ash]

Edited out.

[bill dedman]

Well, I don't know what "keyboard knowledge" has to do with vocabulary, but that's not the question here; You seem to want to bring up factors like driving off a "clean tree" as an advantage for a first-to-leave car, and you're right; I think that IS an advantage. But, if you are going to include the myriad advantages/disadvantages of faster or, slower cars, it is only fair to mention that there are many reasons why a fast or slow car might be perceived as having an advantage, such as; it is common knowledge that weather conditions, such as wind and temperature, affect a slow car's e.t. a lot more than fast cars' times (making it harder to "dial",) and,driving the stripe is much easier for the car that's closing the gap, because he has a better view of the other car, the stripe and the closing-rate; the first car has to try to gauge the progress of the two cars by looking back over his shoulder at the oncoming car... It is said that the slower car watches the upcoming finish-line as a series of still photographs, while the closing car watches a movie... no gaps, and so on, and, so on.

In the final analysis, it is impossible to factor in all the many conditions and situations that might give one car, or another, the advantage, and a "clean tree" falls into that category, just like driving the stripe.

In actuality, it could be said that driving off a "clean tree" for the first-to-leave car is "equalized" by the greater difficulty of driving the stripe.

So, who knows; I just know that from an ethical standpoint, it would seem that having BOTH cars face equal "red light jeopardy" (which they don't now, if the first-to leave, Bulbs,) is more fair than the system we have, now. That's what TruStart would give us.

Just my 2-cents...

[Bruce Noland]

"Us" You are not a racer Bill. Don't forget that. All the other weather condition stuff is hooey. The rules as currently configured offer a little something for both sides of this issue but should not be rejigged to offer red light protection for the slow racers.

[Michael Beard]

The faster cars ( ... ) don't have nearly the same amount of time to drive the stripe.

Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

All the other weather condition stuff is hooey.

LMAO!

[7423]

Great Sunday entertainment...................this thread is the best EVER !!
Just one wow after the next.
Carry on.

[Bunkster]

Mr. Dedman, you’ve been quite correct all these years on this subject. The abuse you’ve received has been truly surreal. That finally…someone…somewhere is going to see the light…makes you understand how Whittaker Chambers felt when they said he was lying.

For your own peace of mind, know you owe no one an explanation of your position. If anyone asks you to explain why the worst red light is where things ought to be, ignore them. If it has to be explained, they’ll never understand the explanation.

[Bruce Noland]

OK Bill you're a bracket racer. No major sanctioning body will open this can of worms.

[bill dedman]

Originally Posted by Bunkster

Mr. Dedman, you’ve been quite correct all these years on this subject. The abuse you’ve received has been truly surreal. That finally…someone…somewhere is going to see the light…makes you understand how Whittaker Chambers felt when they said he was lying.

For your own peace of mind, know you owe no one an explanation of your position. If anyone asks you to explain why the worst red light is where things ought to be, ignore them. If it has to be explained, they’ll never understand the explanation.

Thanks for those kind words. I don't see a lot of them on these cyber-pages; You and Jim Wahl have been my inspiration for this crusade, but there is one thing I have not, apparently, made clear. This (TruStart) double red light system is in ~no way~ MY idea. I am just not that smart. I raced for years (after 1963, and the 'tree was instituted,) thinking everything was "fine" with no thought of changing anything. It wasn't until a bracket racing friend of mine (about 15 years ago) explained the inequity of giving the second car to leave, a free ride to the next round if the first car red lights, that I began to understand the inequities of what goes on at an NHRA track RE: the red light system. Unequal red light jeopardy...

I have a thick skin (and, some people would say, skull) having spent the last 25 years on BB's with varying degrees of rancor directed at me, so, not to worry... I'm fine...

I am just glad this is finally happening... I don't understand the inertia in getting it implemented "across-the-board," but I can wait a little longer... I've been waiting a long time........
This is a breath of fresh air!

Thanks for your comments!!!!

[Dave Noll]

As a long time, slow, Bracket racer recently turned to a slow class racer I would applaud the implementation of trustart.