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Old 02-09-2016, 02:54 PM   #1
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Unhappy Re: EPA To Prohibit the Conversion of Street Cars into Race

Not that it pertains to drag racing,
but will this also include the dirt track guys?
We have a bunch of pure and bomber style dirt track racers around here.
This is crazy!
What is next?
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Old 02-09-2016, 03:05 PM   #2
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Not that it pertains to drag racing,
but will this also include the dirt track guys?
We have a bunch of pure and bomber style dirt track racers around here.
This is crazy!
What is next?
It would apply to any race car built from an OEM body, which would apply to bracket racers, Super Street, Stock, Super Stock, Comp Super Modified, COPO, Drag Pack and CobraJet cars.

It will also effect the aftermarket companies too, including tuners.

Just remember that POTUS told the military and the whole world our biggest threat is climate change and global warming!
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Old 02-09-2016, 03:55 PM   #3
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Default Re: EPA To Prohibit the Conversion of Street Cars into Race

I've been over the original documents several times as best an my mind will allow. My take is that this is a proposal to prohibit tampering with the emission on any new vehicle beginning with model year 2018. You would not be able to legally put a pre emissions engine in an regulation year and older body and no new emission controlled engines in older pre emission bodies.

The automotive business has been after something like this for a while now. It's an extension of their attempts to apply copyright law to people who tune their own EFI systems.

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Old 02-09-2016, 04:20 PM   #4
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Here, this may help

http://www.autoblog.com/2016/02/09/e...sema-official/
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Old 02-09-2016, 05:03 PM   #5
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Default Re: EPA To Prohibit the Conversion of Street Cars into Race

I ought not mention this here BUT ..

I am very familiar with EPA classifications and shipping restrictions -

What may be a surprise is that they can actually differ by state

What is restricted in California may not be in South Carolina.

That upset my apple cart when doing a system for a company here in California

In general they are similar but do not have to be exactly the same - the states can impose even stricter regulations


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Old 02-09-2016, 05:23 PM   #6
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After a quick read, it appears the EPA is attempting to rescind an existing rule that allows for "nonroad engine" competition use. This amendment or attempt to rescind the exemption is supposedly meant to phase in from 2018 through 2027. EPA rules generally suffer from lack of funding and enforcement. But, most of the controversial EPA rules spend decades in Federal and State courts. SEMA may be taking the lead in this campaign because it is an authentic 501(c) 6, unlike some other 501(c) 6 organizations out there. This proposed rule hasn't a snow ball's chance in hell of ever becoming an enforceable rule. It's discriminatory on it's face because it goes after the automobiles and does not include all the other motorsports activities. And of course, does any one here really want to mess with NASCAR? Keep on racing boys and girls.
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I've been over the original documents several times as best an my mind will allow. My take is that this is a proposal to prohibit tampering with the emission on any new vehicle beginning with model year 2018. You would not be able to legally put a pre emissions engine in an regulation year and older body and no new emission controlled engines in older pre emission bodies.

The automotive business has been after something like this for a while now. It's an extension of their attempts to apply copyright law to people who tune their own EFI systems.

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The new language reads as follows:

EPA is proposing in 40 CFR 1037.601(a)(3) to clarify that the Clean Air Act
does not allow any person to disable, remove, or render inoperative (i.e., tamper with) emission controls on a certified motor vehicle for purposes of competition. An existing provision in 40 CFR 1068.235 provides an exemption for non-road engines converted for competition use. This provision reflects the explicit exclusion of engines used solely for competition from the CAA definition of “nonroad engine”. The proposed amendment clarifies that this part 1068 exemption does not apply for motor vehicles.


The way the proposed bill reads, it says that the exemption given in 40 CFR 1068.235 no longer applies to motor vehicles. In a nutshell, you cannot modify any motor vehicle for racing or motorsports use.
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Old 02-09-2016, 09:24 PM   #8
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The new language reads as follows:

EPA is proposing in 40 CFR 1037.601(a)(3) to clarify that the Clean Air Act
does not allow any person to disable, remove, or render inoperative (i.e., tamper with) emission controls on a certified motor vehicle for purposes of competition. An existing provision in 40 CFR 1068.235 provides an exemption for non-road engines converted for competition use. This provision reflects the explicit exclusion of engines used solely for competition from the CAA definition of “nonroad engine”. The proposed amendment clarifies that this part 1068 exemption does not apply for motor vehicles.

The way the proposed bill reads, it says that the exemption given in 40 CFR 1068.235 no longer applies to motor vehicles. In a nutshell, you cannot modify any motor vehicle for racing or motorsports use.
Currently under 40 cfr 1068.235 you can remove/disable the emission equipment on an engine used just for competition. This proposal would prohibit disabling/removing emissions equipment from a certified vehicle for competition. If it isn't a certified emissions engine or came from the factory without emissions equipment. I don't think it would be affected.

Text of 40 cfr 1068.235:
Cornell University Law School:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/40/1068.235


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My take is that this is a proposal to prohibit tampering with the emission on any new vehicle beginning with model year 2018.
Actually, those regulations have been in place since 1984 when catalytic converters became standard equipment on all cars.

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It would apply to any race car built from an OEM body, which would apply to bracket racers, Super Street, Stock, Super Stock, Comp Super Modified, COPO, Drag Pack and CobraJet cars.

It will also effect the aftermarket companies too, including tuners.

Just remember that POTUS told the military and the whole world our biggest threat is climate change and global warming!
.aaand what the epa spilled in western Colorado..
epa is a joke! and a bad one at that.
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