2008 rules changes

Bryan Gillespie · 12-04-2007, 04:56 PM

(The rule lists drivetrain sensors.) AKA counters! The drive shaft sensor can be use with the ignition timing to retard or advance, or speed up or slow down the car(ET)

Dave Steltz · 12-04-2007, 05:22 PM

Jeeezzz...anyone want to buy a useless data recorder ????

What is it with NHRA, so they really believe that there is enough guys out there cheating with this stuff ? And do I really think that the tech guy is gonna crawl under my car to see if I have a driveshaft sensor ? Or I cant hide it from him under a shield or something ?

Why is it they allow all kinds of expensive stuff, we save up for a couple of years to buy it (like I just did last year), and then all of a sudden...nope cant use that anymore...wtf...

And why dont all fast cars need a SFI diaper ( ooppps wait buy a SFI one but we fooled you it only has to be "approved")...Are you telling me that my 496 cube 155 mph SG car is more likely to spit out the rods than the DIV1 SST champs 555 cube 150+ mph SST car ? (he will say yes cause I built it myself !)

And how about the new helmet rule ? I still see guys wearing the open face ones (dunno why )...now not only a full face but with a shield (I'm assuming that visor means shield)...I see the Comp guys have to wear a SA rated one in an open car, how many if us are still using a "M" rated one...you door car guys better get some anti-fog stocked up...Matt S I still have that really cool helmet you gave me, I'll give it back cause you need it now...

By the way I can see the writing on the wall that we will all need a HANS some time soon, I'm not against them but its a pretty expensive deal for a low budget racer...wait will it need to be SFI approved (of course until after you buy it then no)...

And how come unless you basically have a 7.49 or quicker car, you dont have to wear protective shoes...what they dont want me to burn my fingers but anything goes with my toes ?

And what the heck....now I have to make up a rube goldberge pipe to add to my portable 1K generator that I use to charge my batteries that sticks above my tailer ? Oh wait...will it need to be SFI certified ?

Really I just wanted to see what it was like to make a long post like Jason....:-)

sstSteveM · 12-04-2007, 06:09 PM

ALLRIGHT......wings must be non-adjustable during the run.....whoever is running AILERONS on their car, let's see it, I want to see it. As a matter of fact, I want to see wings sprout out from under a Super Comp car and have it take off at the top end......now that would be cool.

At least my thrust reversers are still legal.

I do like rules promoting safety.....but can seem cumbersome like anything else

--steve

frank v · 12-04-2007, 06:51 PM

put shoes on Dave and noboby will see your toes.That post was so long i thought Jason typed it.

12-04-2007, 07:15 PM

The funny part is that we have all this stuff that must be manditory for us to wear in S/G, Comp, S/C but last time I was at a divisional event early in 2007 Super Stockers or Stockers still could wear just a jacket with any kind of pants they wanted and no gloves and some of them are running in the mid 8's and some stockers are running Super Gas times. Go Figure....Don't worry Dave you can always come run some MASGA races with us in 08....

chebby2 · 12-04-2007, 08:03 PM

Techdept. in Georgia div.race this year told me and Bob Fuller that the Hans device was coming soon too in the sportsman classes.It'll be real hard to spin your head around with that on..

GaryGoFast · 12-04-2007, 08:13 PM

"And why dont all fast cars need a SFI diaper ( ooppps wait buy a SFI one but we fooled you it only has to be "approved")...Are you telling me that my 496 cube 155 mph SG car is more likely to spit out the rods than the DIV1 SST champs 555 cube 150+ mph SST car ? (he will say yes cause I built it myself !)"

You mean "is more likely to spit out the rods than" anybody with a larger cid. Thanks for the kiss of death buddy.

"And what the heck....now I have to make up a rube goldberge pipe to add to my portable 1K generator that I use to charge my batteries that sticks above my tailer ? Oh wait...will it need to be SFI certified ?"

Dave, just leave the 1K on the roof , end of story.

"By the way I can see the writing on the wall that we will all need a HANS some time soon, I'm not against them but its a pretty expensive deal for a low budget racer...wait will it need to be SFI approved (of course until after you buy it then no)..."

Good thing I dont have to turn my head

Gary

GaryGoFast · 12-04-2007, 08:27 PM

9.4 Generators

All generators, air compressors, etc., that are powered by an internal combustion engine must have the exhaust directed up and above the top of the trailer, truck, RV, tent/awning, etc.

This has to only apply to I would think or at least hope to onboard generators, you def would have to rube something up to make some of those generators out there fit the bill. Seems like NHRA may be thinking of going into the small generator exhaust business or has a piece of a company that does.

Gary Federico
S/St #11

12-04-2007, 05:22 PM	#2
Dave Steltz Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 323 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 2008 rules changes Jeeezzz...anyone want to buy a useless data recorder ???? What is it with NHRA, so they really believe that there is enough guys out there cheating with this stuff ? And do I really think that the tech guy is gonna crawl under my car to see if I have a driveshaft sensor ? Or I cant hide it from him under a shield or something ? Why is it they allow all kinds of expensive stuff, we save up for a couple of years to buy it (like I just did last year), and then all of a sudden...nope cant use that anymore...wtf... And why dont all fast cars need a SFI diaper ( ooppps wait buy a SFI one but we fooled you it only has to be "approved")...Are you telling me that my 496 cube 155 mph SG car is more likely to spit out the rods than the DIV1 SST champs 555 cube 150+ mph SST car ? (he will say yes cause I built it myself !) And how about the new helmet rule ? I still see guys wearing the open face ones (dunno why )...now not only a full face but with a shield (I'm assuming that visor means shield)...I see the Comp guys have to wear a SA rated one in an open car, how many if us are still using a "M" rated one...you door car guys better get some anti-fog stocked up...Matt S I still have that really cool helmet you gave me, I'll give it back cause you need it now... By the way I can see the writing on the wall that we will all need a HANS some time soon, I'm not against them but its a pretty expensive deal for a low budget racer...wait will it need to be SFI approved (of course until after you buy it then no)... And how come unless you basically have a 7.49 or quicker car, you dont have to wear protective shoes...what they dont want me to burn my fingers but anything goes with my toes ? And what the heck....now I have to make up a rube goldberge pipe to add to my portable 1K generator that I use to charge my batteries that sticks above my tailer ? Oh wait...will it need to be SFI certified ? Really I just wanted to see what it was like to make a long post like Jason....:-) __________________ Dave Steltz 135G SG/SP/SST BIAECH Racing Team Last edited by Dave Steltz; 12-04-2007 at 06:46 PM.

12-04-2007, 06:09 PM	#3
sstSteveM Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 49 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 2008 rules changes ALLRIGHT......wings must be non-adjustable during the run.....whoever is running AILERONS on their car, let's see it, I want to see it. As a matter of fact, I want to see wings sprout out from under a Super Comp car and have it take off at the top end......now that would be cool. At least my thrust reversers are still legal. I do like rules promoting safety.....but can seem cumbersome like anything else --steve

12-04-2007, 06:51 PM	#4
frank v Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: ny Posts: 286 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 2008 rules changes put shoes on Dave and noboby will see your toes.That post was so long i thought Jason typed it. __________________ s/g 1620

12-04-2007, 07:15 PM	#5
BKRacing 1198 SG Guest Posts: n/a	Re: 2008 rules changes The funny part is that we have all this stuff that must be manditory for us to wear in S/G, Comp, S/C but last time I was at a divisional event early in 2007 Super Stockers or Stockers still could wear just a jacket with any kind of pants they wanted and no gloves and some of them are running in the mid 8's and some stockers are running Super Gas times. Go Figure....Don't worry Dave you can always come run some MASGA races with us in 08....

12-04-2007, 08:03 PM	#6
chebby2 Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 256 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 2008 rules changes Techdept. in Georgia div.race this year told me and Bob Fuller that the Hans device was coming soon too in the sportsman classes.It'll be real hard to spin your head around with that on..

12-04-2007, 04:56 PM	#1
Bryan Gillespie Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 456 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 2008 rules changes (The rule lists drivetrain sensors.) AKA counters! The drive shaft sensor can be use with the ignition timing to retard or advance, or speed up or slow down the car(ET)

12-04-2007, 08:13 PM	#7
GaryGoFast Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New York Posts: 804 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: 2008 rules changes "And why dont all fast cars need a SFI diaper ( ooppps wait buy a SFI one but we fooled you it only has to be "approved")...Are you telling me that my 496 cube 155 mph SG car is more likely to spit out the rods than the DIV1 SST champs 555 cube 150+ mph SST car ? (he will say yes cause I built it myself !)" You mean "is more likely to spit out the rods than" anybody with a larger cid. Thanks for the kiss of death buddy. "And what the heck....now I have to make up a rube goldberge pipe to add to my portable 1K generator that I use to charge my batteries that sticks above my tailer ? Oh wait...will it need to be SFI certified ?" Dave, just leave the 1K on the roof , end of story. "By the way I can see the writing on the wall that we will all need a HANS some time soon, I'm not against them but its a pretty expensive deal for a low budget racer...wait will it need to be SFI approved (of course until after you buy it then no)..." Good thing I dont have to turn my head Gary Last edited by GaryGoFast; 12-04-2007 at 08:44 PM.

12-04-2007, 08:27 PM	#8
GaryGoFast Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New York Posts: 804 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: 2008 rules changes 9.4 Generators All generators, air compressors, etc., that are powered by an internal combustion engine must have the exhaust directed up and above the top of the trailer, truck, RV, tent/awning, etc. This has to only apply to I would think or at least hope to onboard generators, you def would have to rube something up to make some of those generators out there fit the bill. Seems like NHRA may be thinking of going into the small generator exhaust business or has a piece of a company that does. Gary Federico S/St #11