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Speer Drag Racing · 03-18-2016, 09:25 PM

As previously stated, this is about entering a year of car that can not be entered in that class. Unless there is something I am missing, this is the same exact scenario that Bogaki was disqualified from in Brainerd a few years ago. So the precedence has been set. It will be interesting to see what NHRA does with it!

Tony Janes · 03-18-2016, 10:07 PM

I think that pretty much ended stock for Bogaki, probably did not like all the rules.

Alan Roehrich · 03-18-2016, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Speer Drag Racing

As previously stated, this is about entering a year of car that can not be entered in that class. Unless there is something I am missing, this is the same exact scenario that Bogaki was disqualified from in Brainerd a few years ago. So the precedence has been set. It will be interesting to see what NHRA does with it!

You are correct. I didn't want to bring up names, Luke is a friend, and that whole deal is something I'm sure he'd rather just forget.

Dick Butler · 03-18-2016, 10:18 PM

Guess the question is how "strict" are the rules on identifying cars? to run a class. Let tail lights be wrong once then Grille, then Hardtop and 4 drs.
I had to go to junk yard to get dome light lens for my Chevelle wagon before I could run Indy. Farmer and Marty suggested this and I got one. Had to report back to show Farmer before I could make a time run.

Paul Precht · 03-18-2016, 11:35 PM

The taillights aren't a big issue IMO but it would be great if my natural AA car could run in B where it would fit best. I miss it by 3 HP

Tom keedle · 03-19-2016, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Bogues

The 68 Nova had the key switch in the dash. 69 and up have the key switch in the steering column.

...and the door lock knobs are in a different place

Jeff Niceswanger · 03-19-2016, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron Ortiz

If you are one of the lucky individuals that have a car that can be converted to another year with a couple of tail lights and/or trim, then you should have to adhere to the rules specifically.

I've had to scour junkyards in Commerce, GA to get a 2bbl carb air filter hold down bolt to continue competition the next day of eliminations at The Southerns.

So I would have to concur that the correct tail lights should be used.

Back in the old days the violators would be flogged, tar & feathered, or forced to walk the plank.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA its not who you know ...........

Back in the old day, I'm sure it did not cost every bit of 1/2 of a weeks pay to enter .... Did it ? This is the kind of tid bits that run people off. Its confusing to talk about the originality aspect, and then turn around and allow crate motors in ... Looking from an outsiders view, ... the tail lights have to be the correct, original equipment , for the year,.... but the engine don't ? It keeps getting harder and harder to explain these classes to folk ...

Billy Nees · 03-19-2016, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron Ortiz

U/SA its not who you know ...........

Ron, not to get too picky but this IS the 21St century. Mightn't you mean "it's not WHAT you know ..........."

Gary Merrick · 03-19-2016, 09:48 AM

The first NHRA sanctioned event I went to was in 1970 in Columbus, Ohio, for a Points Meet (yeah, I am old). Marty Barrett teched my car in and he started writing things wrong, "no radio delete plate, no outside mirror, to start with, and we had not even lifted the hood. He looked at me and said, "do you want me to go on, cause you are not racing today". My point being is that everybody's car has something wrong with it currently (whether it be intentional or unintentional). If the the tech guys want to find something and nit pick it they can, but they pretty much just concentrate on the safety items and that is OK in my book. However, when it comes to engines, transmissions, drive trains, etc., the line has to be drawn, a 1970 Nova does not make AA/S. The precedent had been set in Brainerd a few years ago with oddly enough the same year car and engine combination, although an automatic vs. a manual, but basically the same situation. Me personally, I really don't like seeing anybody not getting to race, especially, someone from out of the country, but the rules are the rules and for this occurrence it is very obvious (at least to me) what needs to be done.

Gary Merrick
3522 Stock

Randall Klein · 03-19-2016, 12:02 PM

Years ago we were helping a newbie with a 350HP 66 Chevy II, and were cautioned about the missing SS emblem on the glove box. Guys like Bogacki and Alund are not steeped in nuances of class racing, that differentiate us from so called Bracket Racers, as many are want to do.
My first new car was a 396/375 Nova 1969, so I watch those years and know the minor differences, years ago it seemed clear that you could claim any year. However the Bogacki thing really sets a precedent in this case.

Entrants like Alund lend a certain cachet to our midst, and it will be interesting to see if he gets a pass from NHRA. Kinda feel bad, as I did for the Brainerd incident as newbies must be muttering "what the heck?"

03-18-2016, 09:25 PM	#21
Speer Drag Racing Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 48 Likes: 6 Liked 56 Times in 10 Posts	Re: So, what should happen to As previously stated, this is about entering a year of car that can not be entered in that class. Unless there is something I am missing, this is the same exact scenario that Bogaki was disqualified from in Brainerd a few years ago. So the precedence has been set. It will be interesting to see what NHRA does with it!

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Tony Janes Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Whittier, Ca Posts: 830 Likes: 94 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: So, what should happen to I think that pretty much ended stock for Bogaki, probably did not like all the rules. __________________ Tony Janes 7941 STK, SS

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Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: So, what should happen to Guess the question is how "strict" are the rules on identifying cars? to run a class. Let tail lights be wrong once then Grille, then Hardtop and 4 drs. I had to go to junk yard to get dome light lens for my Chevelle wagon before I could run Indy. Farmer and Marty suggested this and I got one. Had to report back to show Farmer before I could make a time run.

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Paul Precht Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Elysburg, Pa Posts: 733 Likes: 361 Liked 327 Times in 121 Posts	Re: So, what should happen to The taillights aren't a big issue IMO but it would be great if my natural AA car could run in B where it would fit best. I miss it by 3 HP

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Gary Merrick Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 210 Likes: 441 Liked 196 Times in 29 Posts	Re: So, what should happen to The first NHRA sanctioned event I went to was in 1970 in Columbus, Ohio, for a Points Meet (yeah, I am old). Marty Barrett teched my car in and he started writing things wrong, "no radio delete plate, no outside mirror, to start with, and we had not even lifted the hood. He looked at me and said, "do you want me to go on, cause you are not racing today". My point being is that everybody's car has something wrong with it currently (whether it be intentional or unintentional). If the the tech guys want to find something and nit pick it they can, but they pretty much just concentrate on the safety items and that is OK in my book. However, when it comes to engines, transmissions, drive trains, etc., the line has to be drawn, a 1970 Nova does not make AA/S. The precedent had been set in Brainerd a few years ago with oddly enough the same year car and engine combination, although an automatic vs. a manual, but basically the same situation. Me personally, I really don't like seeing anybody not getting to race, especially, someone from out of the country, but the rules are the rules and for this occurrence it is very obvious (at least to me) what needs to be done. Gary Merrick 3522 Stock Last edited by Gary Merrick; 03-19-2016 at 10:52 AM.

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Randall Klein Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska Posts: 785 Likes: 45 Liked 316 Times in 67 Posts	Re: So, what should happen to Years ago we were helping a newbie with a 350HP 66 Chevy II, and were cautioned about the missing SS emblem on the glove box. Guys like Bogacki and Alund are not steeped in nuances of class racing, that differentiate us from so called Bracket Racers, as many are want to do. My first new car was a 396/375 Nova 1969, so I watch those years and know the minor differences, years ago it seemed clear that you could claim any year. However the Bogacki thing really sets a precedent in this case. Entrants like Alund lend a certain cachet to our midst, and it will be interesting to see if he gets a pass from NHRA. Kinda feel bad, as I did for the Brainerd incident as newbies must be muttering "what the heck?"