no more blocking

Angelo DiTocco · 12-09-2007, 06:22 PM

To James P....

I do tend to agree w/ your viewpoint ............ but......... if a blinder is a crutch............ how would you define the widespread use of the "iCard" ?...... is that not a crutch also?

Ang

Greg Barsamian · 12-09-2007, 07:06 PM

Kev, What are you & all the D-1 "bratz" going to do with your LMSL Kits?

(Lincoln Moorehead Starting line kits)
Sg

Patrick Kelliher · 12-09-2007, 07:12 PM

Get rid of RT on the time slip ?!? Hey while we are at it get rid of ETs too so that we eliminate sandbagging. I agree with getting rid of electronic assistance, and I can understand eliminating something that may be a safety concern, but getting rid of RTs on a slip is just plain absurd.

joe176 · 12-09-2007, 07:24 PM

How does the NHRA determine what they enforce and what they don't enforce...how about sandbagging and smoking the front tires in the lights....I have seen this multiple times throughout the racing season and no one gets thrown out for that?

rustbucket79 · 12-09-2007, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe176

How does the NHRA determine what they enforce and what they don't enforce...how about sandbagging and smoking the front tires in the lights....I have seen this multiple times throughout the racing season and no one gets thrown out for that?

Locking up the tires at the finish line is grounds for immediate disqualification. We've done that to racers at my home NHRA track, and so it should be enforced at divisional and national events as well.

Speedracer · 12-09-2007, 07:50 PM

Getting rid of timeslips in class eliminations is one idea that sounds interesting.That would be a good way for the AHFS to get straightened out.
If you had the faster car and got there first,you would know that you won the heads up race,but might not be sure what you ran.This might make it easier to properly classify a combination.Turn the clocks off for heads up runs.Only somebody in the tower would know what you ran just like Pinks All Out!

stefan callender · 12-09-2007, 08:06 PM

Whats the matter with just leaving everything alone???

Bill Howell · 12-09-2007, 09:30 PM

This seems so crazy to me. Now in the day of Infrared Tree Readers and Optical Matty Boxes, why worry about the possibility of people cheating with old time delay boxes, etc?
We went to a $20,000 footbrake race in NC a couple of weeks ago and a couple of people questioned my oviously unplugged 2-step button on my brake pedal. A two-step with a delay box would be like having a knife in a gun fight against the tree-reader boys.
I just wish tech control would get into the 21st century.

Andys dad · 12-09-2007, 09:32 PM

I heard they are going to eliminate the other side of the tracks numbers on you slip, for the entire meet.

Also, interval sheets and the i-card. ("crew chief pro" and stuff)

Next - will be the weather stations which page you in stagging and eventually all knowledge which could help you win.

Not sure how they will eliminate experience but they are probably working on that too.

You gotta love it....

12-09-2007, 09:34 PM

It seems like everybody wants rules to change that benefit themselves. I like Stefans Idea. LETS LEAVE EVERY THING ALONE AND RACE. I'm just waiting for guys to Lobby for no Heads up races next, and use some BS line like " Now the real drivers will win " I think stock is on the way out and it's just a matter of time, and most likely the internet is a big part of this. How come they don't ask us about these rules? Maybe they should run the heads up Street classes at National events that you see on Speed channel and HP TV. 10.5 tire class, DOT class, ect. I guess a bunch of guys will have to go back to bracket racing then and the rest of us will have to find a different sport. This was a great Class 4 years ago now it looks out of controll. I'm off my soap box now

12-09-2007, 06:22 PM	#1
Angelo DiTocco Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NY, NY Posts: 750 Likes: 175 Liked 189 Times in 48 Posts	Re: no more blocking To James P.... I do tend to agree w/ your viewpoint ............ but......... if a blinder is a crutch............ how would you define the widespread use of the "iCard" ?...... is that not a crutch also? Ang __________________ Angelo DiTocco '98 Firebird SS/HA '98 Firebird B/SA

12-09-2007, 07:06 PM	#2
Greg Barsamian VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Massachusetts Posts: 1,402 Likes: 728 Liked 427 Times in 97 Posts	Re: no more blocking Kev, What are you & all the D-1 "bratz" going to do with your LMSL Kits? (Lincoln Moorehead Starting line kits) Sg

12-09-2007, 07:12 PM	#3
Patrick Kelliher Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 124 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: no more blocking Get rid of RT on the time slip ?!? Hey while we are at it get rid of ETs too so that we eliminate sandbagging. I agree with getting rid of electronic assistance, and I can understand eliminating something that may be a safety concern, but getting rid of RTs on a slip is just plain absurd.

12-09-2007, 07:24 PM	#4
joe176 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NY Posts: 601 Likes: 36 Liked 41 Times in 9 Posts	Re: no more blocking How does the NHRA determine what they enforce and what they don't enforce...how about sandbagging and smoking the front tires in the lights....I have seen this multiple times throughout the racing season and no one gets thrown out for that?

12-09-2007, 07:50 PM	#6
Speedracer Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 59 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: no more blocking Getting rid of timeslips in class eliminations is one idea that sounds interesting.That would be a good way for the AHFS to get straightened out. If you had the faster car and got there first,you would know that you won the heads up race,but might not be sure what you ran.This might make it easier to properly classify a combination.Turn the clocks off for heads up runs.Only somebody in the tower would know what you ran just like Pinks All Out!

12-09-2007, 08:06 PM	#7
stefan callender Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: zoo york Posts: 572 Likes: 3 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: no more blocking Whats the matter with just leaving everything alone???

12-09-2007, 09:30 PM	#8
Bill Howell Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Aiken, SC Posts: 316 Likes: 28 Liked 218 Times in 61 Posts	Re: no more blocking This seems so crazy to me. Now in the day of Infrared Tree Readers and Optical Matty Boxes, why worry about the possibility of people cheating with old time delay boxes, etc? We went to a $20,000 footbrake race in NC a couple of weeks ago and a couple of people questioned my oviously unplugged 2-step button on my brake pedal. A two-step with a delay box would be like having a knife in a gun fight against the tree-reader boys. I just wish tech control would get into the 21st century.

12-09-2007, 09:32 PM	#9
Andys dad VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Arcadia, Ca Posts: 1,571 Likes: 48 Liked 175 Times in 78 Posts	Re: no more blocking I heard they are going to eliminate the other side of the tracks numbers on you slip, for the entire meet. Also, interval sheets and the i-card. ("crew chief pro" and stuff) Next - will be the weather stations which page you in stagging and eventually all knowledge which could help you win. Not sure how they will eliminate experience but they are probably working on that too. You gotta love it.... __________________ time is our most precious resource, you can always make more money but you can never make more time spend your time wisely with the ones you love - Ron Durham

12-09-2007, 09:34 PM	#10
Todd Hoven Guest Posts: n/a	Re: no more blocking It seems like everybody wants rules to change that benefit themselves. I like Stefans Idea. LETS LEAVE EVERY THING ALONE AND RACE. I'm just waiting for guys to Lobby for no Heads up races next, and use some BS line like " Now the real drivers will win " I think stock is on the way out and it's just a matter of time, and most likely the internet is a big part of this. How come they don't ask us about these rules? Maybe they should run the heads up Street classes at National events that you see on Speed channel and HP TV. 10.5 tire class, DOT class, ect. I guess a bunch of guys will have to go back to bracket racing then and the rest of us will have to find a different sport. This was a great Class 4 years ago now it looks out of controll. I'm off my soap box now