Has anyone changed their mind about AA/SA index?

Bruce Noland · 04-11-2016, 06:55 PM

At Indy a10:23 @ B weight would be ______ @ AA weight? My guess would be about 9.82.

Dave Ficacci · 04-11-2016, 07:59 PM

Thanks Larry, I appreciate the kind words.

Bruce, you must be talking about me. If you want to believe my runs at Indy last year are indicative of how my car runs, so be it...you are entitled to your opinion. Since you are busy looking back at stats, can you go back and check and see if any B/SA cars went as quick as you did in A/SA at the Atco Open and the Dutch last year?

Bruce Noland · 04-11-2016, 09:17 PM

Dave,
I heard you were a pretty busy fellow at Indy last year but I do believe you threw up your best number in between your other activities. Given the air at Indy and your passes at Atco, all the numbers are pretty close. You are out here trying to influence a debate when you don't even run in the class and you're smart enough to know you couldn't qualify in AA at Indy. This is where the debate is centered - INDY. Everywhere else the AA cars are receiving a gift.

Jeff Teuton · 04-11-2016, 10:54 PM

I have to go with Larry Hill and the Chuck Rayburn rule; I don't have one so I got no vote. However;;;; I really don't know the theory from to move beyond the normal (by what standards I have no idea) from about .10 to .15 class to class to the .40 to that AA class. But I got no vote so I guess it don't matter. Consider this clutter.

rod butcher · 04-12-2016, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

Dave,
I heard you were a pretty busy fellow at Indy last year but I do believe you threw up your best number in between your other activities. Given the air at Indy and your passes at Atco, all the numbers are pretty close. You are out here trying to influence a debate when you don't even run in the class and you're smart enough to know you couldn't qualify in AA at Indy. This is where the debate is centered - INDY. Everywhere else the AA cars are receiving a gift.

Bruce
We were .28 slower at Indy (3900) DA on friday running class than the Atco open race (600) DA on thursday's record runs Just for a comparison. Indy did correct .02 better but I think my stuff runs better at altitude.

rod

Bruce Noland · 04-12-2016, 10:04 AM

Thanks Rod

Dave Casey · 04-12-2016, 03:29 PM

My car is a natural B car, so I cannot make AA. However on a number of occasions I have considered switching to the L88 combo which would put me in AA. I don't want to do that because of 2 things 1. the index is too fast and I occasionally go to Indy and also care about how I qualify. 2. I wish there was a class faster than AA, I don't like running a car any heavier than need be so I wouldn't wish to run the current AA weight brake.

To answer the original question, I would want the index to be moved slower 1-3 tenths.

Jim Bailey · 06-07-2016, 09:09 AM

In a preview of Indy, at the Jegs Sportsnationals, with a qualified 128 car field, I was just wondering how the large contengent of AA/ stockers made out ?

04-11-2016, 06:55 PM	#1
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: Has anyone changed their mind about AA/SA index? At Indy a10:23 @ B weight would be ______ @ AA weight? My guess would be about 9.82. __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

04-11-2016, 07:59 PM	#2
Dave Ficacci Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Jersey Posts: 372 Likes: 43 Liked 98 Times in 23 Posts	Re: Has anyone changed their mind about AA/SA index? Thanks Larry, I appreciate the kind words. Bruce, you must be talking about me. If you want to believe my runs at Indy last year are indicative of how my car runs, so be it...you are entitled to your opinion. Since you are busy looking back at stats, can you go back and check and see if any B/SA cars went as quick as you did in A/SA at the Atco Open and the Dutch last year? __________________ Dave Ficacci 1013 STK 1170 SS

04-11-2016, 09:17 PM	#3
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: Has anyone changed their mind about AA/SA index? Dave, I heard you were a pretty busy fellow at Indy last year but I do believe you threw up your best number in between your other activities. Given the air at Indy and your passes at Atco, all the numbers are pretty close. You are out here trying to influence a debate when you don't even run in the class and you're smart enough to know you couldn't qualify in AA at Indy. This is where the debate is centered - INDY. Everywhere else the AA cars are receiving a gift. __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

04-11-2016, 10:54 PM	#4
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts	Re: Has anyone changed their mind about AA/SA index? I have to go with Larry Hill and the Chuck Rayburn rule; I don't have one so I got no vote. However;;;; I really don't know the theory from to move beyond the normal (by what standards I have no idea) from about .10 to .15 class to class to the .40 to that AA class. But I got no vote so I guess it don't matter. Consider this clutter. __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK

04-12-2016, 10:04 AM	#6
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: Has anyone changed their mind about AA/SA index? Thanks Rod __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

04-12-2016, 03:29 PM	#7
Dave Casey VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hampden, MA Posts: 1,205 Likes: 233 Liked 804 Times in 168 Posts	Re: Has anyone changed their mind about AA/SA index? My car is a natural B car, so I cannot make AA. However on a number of occasions I have considered switching to the L88 combo which would put me in AA. I don't want to do that because of 2 things 1. the index is too fast and I occasionally go to Indy and also care about how I qualify. 2. I wish there was a class faster than AA, I don't like running a car any heavier than need be so I wouldn't wish to run the current AA weight brake. To answer the original question, I would want the index to be moved slower 1-3 tenths. __________________ Dave Casey 1330 STK

06-07-2016, 09:09 AM	#8
Jim Bailey Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 674 Likes: 15 Liked 584 Times in 94 Posts	Re: Has anyone changed their mind about AA/SA index? In a preview of Indy, at the Jegs Sportsnationals, with a qualified 128 car field, I was just wondering how the large contengent of AA/ stockers made out ?