NHRA and the Master Plan

[Michael Beard]

Originally Posted by 600ci

mountain motors
dump top fuel
pro mod
fuel altereds (wild wille)
dump top fuel
3 exhibition rounds between the pros of late model S/SS
funny car take it or leave it
pro mod
etc
etc
Trump can make drag racing great again

That's what IHRA did...

[Mike Taylor 3601]

Originally Posted by Michael Beard

That's what IHRA did...

I was going to say same thing.

To have new pro teams you have to sportsman racers,used to the way it worked was had sportsman racer that dominated a class AND WAS ABLE TO WIN ENOUGH MONEY between purse and contingency and seemed like they would move up to pro class or would keep moving up through sportsman classes.

Drag Racing has competition from many things now,one thing is kids sports they don't have a normal season anymore they play practically year round,so the family is tied up with that, younger racers most don't want any rules or restrictions,some don't even want to race just make passes to see how fast they can go,don't have a clue about RT judging by their 1.600-1.900 reaction times,in ways it is almost like some parts of drag racing have went backwards,like before or when was first organized.

Mike Taylor 3601

[MadMax404]

Originally Posted by Mike Taylor 3601

I was going to say same thing.

younger racers most don't want any rules or restrictions,some don't even want to race just make passes to see how fast they can go,don't have a clue about RT judging by their 1.600-1.900 reaction times,in ways it is almost like some parts of drag racing have went backwards,like before or when was first organized.

Mike Taylor 3601

I don't get how that statement is accurate? I would replace "younger" racer with "stock eliminator" racer. Considering none go to any "money" event all they ever want to do is make passes and run heads-up like it was in the 50s-70s. There is a potential $100,000 to win race for Junior racers in Kentucky in October. I bet the packages per round is going to rival if not surpass that of what you see at any points/national event this season.

[Mike Taylor 3601]

Originally Posted by MadMax404

I don't get how that statement is accurate? I would replace "younger" racer with "stock eliminator" racer. Considering none go to any "money" event all they ever want to do is make passes and run heads-up like it was in the 50s-70s. There is a potential $100,000 to win race for Junior racers in Kentucky in October. I bet the packages per round is going to rival if not surpass that of what you see at any points/national event this season.

I am talking about NHRA purses and contingency,I had chance to win as much,as much if not more 30 years ago at NHRA and IHRA points meets, now called NHRA Lucas oil divisionals and IHRA pro ams.

Bracket racing, yeah there are all kinds of big bucks races and is tough racing, wasn't knocking any of that.

Mike Taylor 3601

[Jim Wahl]

Anybody else paying attention to the outlaw races out there? Recently at South Georgia Motorsports Park the had a race called "Lights Out" that netted over 60,000 spectators! That's right, SIXTY THOUSAND spectators (they were climbing over the fences to get in when the gates closed)
to watch all sorts of big and small tire, turbo, supercharged. N/A race cars do battle for unbelievable amounts of money. Is this the way of the future? Jim

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[Bob Don]

I always thought the master plan was to separate you from your wallet. (and it's working because I'm a willing participant!)

[Darrel Goheen]

Originally Posted by Bob Don

I always thought the master plan was to separate you from your wallet. (and it's working because I'm a willing participant!)

They sure hooked me last year. It's silly but it sure was fun!

[cicero819]

Warren Johnson has it right, if there is no way to make money I'm staying at home.

[Bret Kepner]

Originally Posted by Jim Wahl

Recently at South Georgia Motorsports Park the had a race called "Lights Out" that netted over 60,000 spectators! That's right, SIXTY THOUSAND spectators (they were climbing over the fences to get in when the gates closed)...

Jim, you know I consider you a friend but I have to call you out when you post ridiculous crap like this. If you're too lazy to use Google Earth and simple math to figure out the true seating capacity of a track, you could, at the very least, go to the track's website which plainly proclaims their seating capacity to be 3,000 people.

I know, I know; you're going to reply by saying you're just repeating what you heard. There are a lot of problems with that approach. One is the fact it makes you look like an idiot. The other is the fact it detracts from all the other events which DO draw more than ten thousand people.

Before you ask, the answer is "Yes!". I really DO know the actual seating capacity of every drag strip in the country.

[Mike Dahl]

So I have said this before a number of times and it falls on deaf ears but there just isn't as many people (family members included) who want to sit around with little to nothing to do for 2-3 days at a time as there used to be. There's a better way to handle things- like setting your runs within a couple of hours so there is free time to enjoy the things the host city has to offer. Gee, it's a shocker to think that there are less people with families that wanna go watch the never repainted 30 year old stocker that runs 11's or the 71 pinto Super Gasser, while waiting to run at 10, then 11, then 4, then cancel; over going to Disneyland or grabbing a wine tour in Napa, etc. etc. etc.

I know people will say there isn't enough time to fix something between runs. Tough ****. Bring spares, be prepared- maybe NHRA could let you run after another category. It's not really that big of a deal.

Until you convince the real sponsors (the family members) that its good, you can change rules until you are blue in the face, or add maybe another 30 or so SS classes to ensure there is no heads up drag racing; it will continue to wither away. By the way, doesn't it usually cost more to build another combination than to improve the one you have??? The prices paid to not heads up are larger than most realize.

As far as the outlaw races go, this is really happening and the train is leaving the station.