Qualifying with no AHFS

Ed Wright · 05-09-2016, 04:47 PM

ET brackets is entry level. Stock is not.

James Perrone · 05-09-2016, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright

ET brackets is entry level. Stock is not.

Correct. Come on Casey I know you for some time. You wouldn't spend it if you had it anyway lol. Entry level for stock is under $20000 for a decent car. And a bracket car cost $$$$$$$.

Andrew Hill · 05-09-2016, 05:22 PM

Who would anyone build a factory rated street combination when there are so many under-rated CJ/DP/COPO (and de-rated street Challengers....) combinations to choose from? Some of them cost a significant amount more money to build, but not all of them.

One specific combo I see mentioned here is the 2010 Camaro rated at 400hp. For comparison, the 1999-02 LS1 Camaro/Firebird is rated at 382, and while it's definitely not a killer combo like it used to be, it looks like two of them qualified at .90+ under at Indy this year.

The '10 engine has 30 more cubic inches, slightly bigger valves, and similar other specs according to the guide. Maybe I'm off base here, but shouldn't that be capable of making 30 hp more than an LS1?

Yes, you'd have to build a good, well sorted car to be competitive, but what's wrong with that?

Casey Miles · 05-09-2016, 05:36 PM

James, see you at Englishtown

Jeff Teuton · 05-09-2016, 09:29 PM

I think my dues are up to date. I got more paid in dues than I have in Social Security.

SS734 · 05-10-2016, 07:46 PM

Can anyone explain why shipping weights in gt can only be adjusted plus or minus 250 lbs to move up or down in classes but in regular superstock its now unlimited? Didnt gt get the 250 rule based off the regular superstock rule? It must have been inadvertently deleted at some point?

SStockDart · 05-11-2016, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SS734

Can anyone explain why shipping weights in gt can only be adjusted plus or minus 250 lbs to move up or down in classes but in regular superstock its now unlimited? Didnt gt get the 250 rule based off the regular superstock rule? It must have been inadvertently deleted at some point?

I believe that you are "misreading " the information. The 250 pound adjustment for GT is to determine your "natural" class......then you can move up or down one class. In stock and superstock, your natural class is what it is, weight vs horsepower...then you can move up or down one class with weight adjustments.

05-09-2016, 04:47 PM	#1
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Qualifying with no AHFS ET brackets is entry level. Stock is not. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

05-09-2016, 05:22 PM	#3
Andrew Hill Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 703 Likes: 450 Liked 174 Times in 39 Posts	Re: Qualifying with no AHFS Who would anyone build a factory rated street combination when there are so many under-rated CJ/DP/COPO (and de-rated street Challengers....) combinations to choose from? Some of them cost a significant amount more money to build, but not all of them. One specific combo I see mentioned here is the 2010 Camaro rated at 400hp. For comparison, the 1999-02 LS1 Camaro/Firebird is rated at 382, and while it's definitely not a killer combo like it used to be, it looks like two of them qualified at .90+ under at Indy this year. The '10 engine has 30 more cubic inches, slightly bigger valves, and similar other specs according to the guide. Maybe I'm off base here, but shouldn't that be capable of making 30 hp more than an LS1? Yes, you'd have to build a good, well sorted car to be competitive, but what's wrong with that? __________________ 3207 D/SA, C/ED

05-09-2016, 05:36 PM	#4
Casey Miles Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 706 Likes: 128 Liked 508 Times in 92 Posts	Re: Qualifying with no AHFS James, see you at Englishtown

05-09-2016, 09:29 PM	#5
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts	Re: Qualifying with no AHFS I think my dues are up to date. I got more paid in dues than I have in Social Security. __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK

05-10-2016, 07:46 PM	#6
SS734 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 27 Likes: 5 Liked 4 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Qualifying with no AHFS Can anyone explain why shipping weights in gt can only be adjusted plus or minus 250 lbs to move up or down in classes but in regular superstock its now unlimited? Didnt gt get the 250 rule based off the regular superstock rule? It must have been inadvertently deleted at some point?