67 4 dr hemi belvedere - Page 3

John Lang · 06-08-2016, 12:01 PM

The Powder Blue Hemi car was purchased from the dealer was sold to Edward Feldner, of Milwaukee, WI., who then moved to Southern California, it was a city in the neighbor hood around the Pomona area, then pulled the Hemi, and installed a 383 for the street car it became ! Last trace I have no idea ! The first part is also reality ! Old Age can be pretty accurate at times, like this !...John

Superscott426 · 06-13-2016, 05:42 PM

The light metallic blue 1966 Hemi Coronet 440 four door, factory 4 speed, and was a dealer order shipped new to Oswald Motors in Cloquet, Minnesota. The car has never left the state, and I have owned the car for 36 years. The car was a street racer and drag raced from day one, and I have most of the history for the car, except for who the first owner was. I also have all the documentation including the fender tag, broadcast sheet, IBM punch card, letter from Chrysler Historical Society, and Galen Govier decoding of the broadcast sheet.

As far as any Hemi Wagons built, I have my doubts. It may have been an option for a 1966 Coronet wagon, and noted in the NHRA classifications guides, but did Chrysler build one - doubtful. Gary Ostrich was a personal friend of mine, and he had told me his wagon was originally a 318, and the same goes for Lee Smiths Wagon. So if a Hemi Wagon was built.......................Like the 4 doors, it would be quite rare.

Steve Hagberg · 06-13-2016, 07:27 PM

I have a copy of a "Stock Engine Test" published by the GM Engineering Staff dated Oct. 17, 1966. The Forward to the report states "As part of the Stock Engine Test Program, a a 1966 Plymouth 426 cubic inch, Hemi-Head, 425 horsepower engine, as used in the Plymouth Belvedere I four door sedan, was tested in the Engineering Staff Test Department at the General Motors Technical Center". This report was an amazingly thorough dyno flog of this engine. The Forward goes on to state that the engine was removed from the car with 29 miles on the odometer, was run for 50 hours to break it in. The combustion chambers were cleaned and the valves lapped, and then it was tested on the dyno. Unfortunately there is no other information on the color, Vin number, or mention of what was done with the car when the test was completed. Interestingly the horsepower numbers were almost exactly the same a what the Engineering Street Hemi Development Report published by Chrysler showed, And it was significantly more than the published 425 Hp. There must have been a four door on a showroom floor that GM bought to satisfy their curiosity.

David Hakim · 06-13-2016, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton

I think Gaylon Govier found a couple in the paperwork while researching the files. I know in the 66 Parts Manual one of the pictures in the body section is a Coronet Wagon with a 426 Hemi. Of course those are illustrations. The 70-71 parts manual are combined years and I can assure you there a couple of things put in there just for NHRA, but I ain't sayin what. And maybe they existed. In 1969 the 440 Dart and Cuda were never offered to the general public dealers. Nobody was more intuned with the performance than us. But they made them. There are several blueprint errors from that era, but I guess now they are fact. After that many years it don't matter. I still have the parts books back to 1960.

Actually, the '69 440 Dart GTS and 440 'Cuda were legit production cars that came out mid-year and offered to the general public (production figures indicate over 600 440 powered Dart GTS and over 30 440 'Cudas - {all autos} were produced). They weren't "package cars" and came with a full factory warranty and all street equipment. A brainchild of both Dick Maxwell and Tom Hoover (with the blessing of Bob Cahill), the 1969 440 Dart and 'Cuda were built right on the assembly line at Dodge Main (Hamtramck). Both Super Stock and Car Craft magazine ran road/drag tests on them back in the day. This package has been legal in Stock and Super Stock for decades, Now, the '68 440 Dart GTS, that's a slightly different animal simply due to low production figures that regulate it to Super Stock only.

06-08-2016, 12:01 PM	#21
John Lang Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sheboygan Wi Posts: 391 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 2 Posts	Re: 67 4 dr hemi belvedere The Powder Blue Hemi car was purchased from the dealer was sold to Edward Feldner, of Milwaukee, WI., who then moved to Southern California, it was a city in the neighbor hood around the Pomona area, then pulled the Hemi, and installed a 383 for the street car it became ! Last trace I have no idea ! The first part is also reality ! Old Age can be pretty accurate at times, like this !...John __________________ John Lang 365 STK, SS

06-13-2016, 05:42 PM	#22
Superscott426 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 1 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 67 4 dr hemi belvedere The light metallic blue 1966 Hemi Coronet 440 four door, factory 4 speed, and was a dealer order shipped new to Oswald Motors in Cloquet, Minnesota. The car has never left the state, and I have owned the car for 36 years. The car was a street racer and drag raced from day one, and I have most of the history for the car, except for who the first owner was. I also have all the documentation including the fender tag, broadcast sheet, IBM punch card, letter from Chrysler Historical Society, and Galen Govier decoding of the broadcast sheet. As far as any Hemi Wagons built, I have my doubts. It may have been an option for a 1966 Coronet wagon, and noted in the NHRA classifications guides, but did Chrysler build one - doubtful. Gary Ostrich was a personal friend of mine, and he had told me his wagon was originally a 318, and the same goes for Lee Smiths Wagon. So if a Hemi Wagon was built.......................Like the 4 doors, it would be quite rare.

06-13-2016, 07:27 PM	#23
Steve Hagberg Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 38 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 67 4 dr hemi belvedere I have a copy of a "Stock Engine Test" published by the GM Engineering Staff dated Oct. 17, 1966. The Forward to the report states "As part of the Stock Engine Test Program, a a 1966 Plymouth 426 cubic inch, Hemi-Head, 425 horsepower engine, as used in the Plymouth Belvedere I four door sedan, was tested in the Engineering Staff Test Department at the General Motors Technical Center". This report was an amazingly thorough dyno flog of this engine. The Forward goes on to state that the engine was removed from the car with 29 miles on the odometer, was run for 50 hours to break it in. The combustion chambers were cleaned and the valves lapped, and then it was tested on the dyno. Unfortunately there is no other information on the color, Vin number, or mention of what was done with the car when the test was completed. Interestingly the horsepower numbers were almost exactly the same a what the Engineering Street Hemi Development Report published by Chrysler showed, And it was significantly more than the published 425 Hp. There must have been a four door on a showroom floor that GM bought to satisfy their curiosity.