Has anyone changed their mind about AA/SA index?

[JHeath]

Maybe Bruce needs more fiber in his diet !

[jimi]

Are we over this stupid **** about a hood yet? Who really gives a rats *** anyway it probably slows the car down.

Back to what this thread is about AA/SA.

7.0 break for AA/SA 10.60 index
7.5 break for BB/SA 10.80 index

Or 10.80 for the present AA/SA at 7.5#

Finally got to run my car today. I have some work to do but it was promising. Mostly carb tuning/ gearing/ shift points. I'll be in the thick of it real soon.

[Jeff Teuton]

Is he reallyi as pittifyl as appearances? That is strong. Maybe past the point of no return..Now Mama (the owner is back and mad) Wants to know what is the crap about some hood. Not sure how much longer I can control her. Referring to folks a a pack-of-aaaholes. Not her normal polite method. Mama wants to know. If asked, answer/quickly/truthfuly and in full. Who did this anyway. Federal Investigation

[SStockDart]

I could get my 69 Roadrunner into AA/SA by changing it to a 68 (with appropriate hood inserts and no air grabber..of course)...and a Street Hemi. I won't do it because it would be the second worst financial decision I have made in my life. (Second to my first divorce)....IMO, raise the index.

[Tom Moock]

Jeff, I don`t care what hood you run, is your 13 challenger B/SA a factory production car or a Drag Pak car. if factory production car? only superseded and or replacement parts you can use are motor parts, if listed by NHRA, no body parts per rule book, Joseph said your car didn`t have ser. # , Do you have to use stock control arms with straight axle or do you run indep. rear end? like the stock production Challenger came with. Tom

[Joseph Teuton]

Originally Posted by Tom Moock

Jeff, I don`t care what hood you run, is your 13 challenger B/SA a factory production car or a Drag Pak car. if factory production car? only superseded and or replacement parts you can use are motor parts, if listed by NHRA, no body parts per rule book, Joseph said your car didn`t have ser. # , Do you have to use stock control arms with straight axle or do you run indep. rear end? like the stock production Challenger came with. Tom

The pink car is not classified as a Drag Pak. It doesn't follow the same rules as a DragPak. It's being classified as a showroom production car. It has a straight axle that was approved by NHRA. Other than that everything else on the car is avalible from the factory with factory part numbers!

[Hagen Gary]

I wasn't a Chevy dealer or even alive in 1969. But couldn't you get a cowl hood for a Camaro over the counter or installed on your small block car? I would think you could with all the other options you could get over the counter. So, why did all those cars have to change to the flat hood and try to match paint a few years ago? I'm just asking because I'm uninformed. Please do not curse me out or call me names. Btw, I ran AA this year, and would prefer 10.80.

[Greg Hill]

10.75 or 10.80 would be a fair index for AA. This hood business is interesting but it's not that big a deal either way. The big deal is the horsepower rating of the Challengers in question and the reduction in shipping weight. First the 392 SRT motor is 485 from the factory and had 105 hp taken off before it ever went down the track and is rated at 380. The 5.7 Hemi is 375 hp from the factory and is rated at 300 now. These ratings are at SAE net with all accessories, mufflers and cats. Also shipping weights were reduced by 5-600 lbs. As long as I've been racing the only thing that comes close to this are the extremely bogus hp ratings used on the factory race cars when they first came out.

One needs to ask who benefits from these hp and weight reductions and how things like this happen. Is this good for stock eliminator? What's this do for the guys who have a car that runs in the same class? In my opinion, Nhra, the manufacturer, and the folks that pushed for this are responsible. We get side tracked by issues like a hood, but the big thing is the hp ratings and reduction in shipping weights.

[Hagen Gary]

So now we're not just looking for a Vin number on a car with a hood, now are looking for a Vin number on the car with the hood, 500 pounds less weight and a lot softer horse power factor? Is that what you're saying Mr. Hill?

[Joseph Teuton]

Originally Posted by Hagen Gary

So now we're not just looking for a Vin number on a car with a hood, now are looking for a Vin number on the car with the hood, 500 pounds less weight and a lot softer horse power factor? Is that what you're saying Mr. Hill?

Again this is not a Drag Pak. So no it's not 500 lbs less weight, it has glass windows, outside mirrors, and everything but a rear axle that comes from the factory. The hood is available for this car but to be honest it does nothing in performance due the fact it's made to run with a factory air box. Guys this is called evolution. We can not keep racing 1960, 70's, 80's and so on car when we are in the year 2016. We can't really think that the factory's were not going to produce cars and people were not going to submit them to NHRA to race and move along history huh..? Every car out there had a soft hp rating when it first came out or NO one would have raced it. With due time this will be consider an old car and other new cars will be here.