couple of questions concerning stock eliminator rules

[Dissident]

Can you install rack and pinion steering in a car that did not originally come that way? One would think that since it is a weight per hp category that it would not make any difference.....but that is why I'm asking.

Also what is the percentage of Stk Elim racers that are using modified intake manifolds and cylinder head ports?

Thanks in advance.
Dissident

Happy Independence Day!!!!

[Bob Mulry]

Just a heads-up.......

If this is type of information that you are looking for, maybe you should just buy an NHRA rule book.....

All the info for building a race car, of any class, is in that book......

After you have the basics down your questions will yield better answers.....

Bob

[Dissident]

Thanks,
Got a rule book. Item is not covered. Only refers to replacing power steering with manual steering - does not specify any details.

RE: Cyl heads and manifolds question - Saw some "legal - passed tech" cyl heads and they were reworked albeit works covered by "cheating bastard" blaster.

I am thinking that anyone getting started in Stk Elim is in for a drastic and disappointing surprise if they go at it with really stock parts.

Maybe naive, but perhaps not.

Dissident.

[Alan Roehrich]

Actually, yes, conversion from one type of steering (ie, from a steering box to rack and pinion) is covered (you cannot, in Stock Eliminator).

Further, what you need, besides the rule book, is an interpretation, in writing, from NHRA in Glendora, and you should keep it with the car if it is even remotely questionable. You should also go ahead and share it with the tech director in your division.

[Dissident]

Out of the two responses, one was somewhat condescending and the other was somewhat helpful.

My experience thus far has been that the NHRA folks are not always very forthcoming with info and the advice to get answers in writing is good to know. Seems that is good advice.

It was also painfully obvious that my question concerning the legality of modified cylinder heads and manifolds was not addressed. Must also be some of the "insider" info that is withheld from those of us neophytes.

Thanks.
Dissident

[Mike Pearson]

Originally Posted by Dissident

Out of the two responses, one was somewhat condescending and the other was somewhat helpful.

My experience thus far has been that the NHRA folks are not always very forthcoming with info and the advice to get answers in writing is good to know. Seems that is good advice.

It was also painfully obvious that my question concerning the legality of modified cylinder heads and manifolds was not addressed. Must also be some of the "insider" info that is withheld from those of us neophytes.

Thanks.
Dissident

On the head deal you are best to find someone that specializes in stock eliminator heads for your particular combo. They will be able to provide you with a competitive set of heads and a matching intake manifold that will pass tech and run fast. There are some modifications that are legal and accepted.

[Tom Turner]

Originally Posted by Dissident

Out of the two responses, one was somewhat condescending and the other was somewhat helpful.

My experience thus far has been that the NHRA folks are not always very forthcoming with info and the advice to get answers in writing is good to know. Seems that is good advice.

It was also painfully obvious that my question concerning the legality of modified cylinder heads and manifolds was not addressed. Must also be some of the "insider" info that is withheld from those of us neophytes.

Thanks.
Dissident

Dear Dissident;
I must agree with the previous responders and say: GOT A BOOK? READ IT! That being said, do not expect NHRA to assist you in massaging that book to fit your needs....they will not, but they will provide the fruit of any meaningful conversation in writing; a great idea if you are planning to run this category (stk).

In the matter of "insider" info that is withheld from folks of your ilk.... that is not the problem. The info you seek is more "tribal knowledge" than than something that is chiseled on stone tablets and carefully guarded by the "stocker monks". The people that responded to your thread represent many years of experience in this class and have paid many dues along the way. Add a little respect to the "tone" of your requests and you will be shocked at the results. BTW, Mike is dead on about going with a respected pro for heads and intakes.

[Carguy49]

Here are a couple of ideas to help you on the way to Stock Eliminator.

1. Get/ read a current NHRA/IHRA rule book.

2. Talk to any of the Stock guys/gals at your local track and ask them honest questions about their cars. Find the people who have the make and model of car that you want to run.

3. Go to the website set up by Dwight Southerland - Class Racer Info. There is a link on this website, i believe. Get a password and log on. You will find a wealth of info about any car that you might want to run.

4. Pay attention to detail and listen to the racers, they will help you as much as you let them.

[Bob Pagano]

folks on here like to see who you are, name and location, type of car will go a long way in finding help.

[Kenny Wigington]

Originally Posted by Bob Pagano

folks on here like to see who you are, name and location, type of car will go a long way in finding help.

Dissident, your interest in Stock is appreciated by everyone here, so when you ask questions, be open to the answers. Use of your real name, and not a screen name, will go a long way, with the many many very knowledgeable racers and crew here. There is a wealth of info here, and damn near everyone will be glad to help you. I think you'll want to personally thank the folks that gave you good advice, in person.