Is IHRA Going Under?

ss wannabee · 07-19-2016, 08:00 PM

Does this mean that the 2016 season is "Dunn" as well? Get it? Seriously folks, I was
looking at going to the Empire double event next month and wanted to ask the boss for
a couple days off...any hints about what happens for the rest of this season?

Jim Wahl · 07-19-2016, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ss wannabee

Does this mean that the 2016 season is "Dunn" as well? Get it? Seriously folks, I was
looking at going to the Empire double event next month and wanted to ask the boss for
a couple days off...any hints about what happens for the rest of this season?

Everything I've seen and been told is that the 2016 season will finish as usual. Remember that Summit pays for all of it and I got to believe they are good for it. Jim

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larrylomascolo · 07-19-2016, 11:10 PM

And who would have thought at one time ihra was so close in the same strength as nhra ,,When this nitro jam bull crap was the demise of the format and tourn. of champ,,when ihra had the same format as nhra,it seemed the strongest,and i thought like others M.Dunn was the savior of sac. body ,he was there to pull the plug,This is sad for motorsports if this does happen .

Tracy Robbins · 07-20-2016, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by larrylomascolo

And who would have thought at one time ihra was so close in the same strength as nhra ,,When this nitro jam bull crap was the demise of the format and tourn. of champ,,when ihra had the same format as nhra,it seemed the strongest,and i thought like others M.Dunn was the savior of sac. body ,he was there to pull the plug,This is sad for motorsports if this does happen .

I think this is when you saw Bill Bader exit then Polburn and Scooter Peaco took over...that's when things began going down hill. Peaco tried to tell everyone that they were sportsman friendly and you could talk to him anytime. You could talk to him but it was like talking to a brick wall and they were dead set on changing what Bader had built! What a shame to see it go away, we have had a lot of great years racing and meeting new friends from all over the country but it will never be like it once was. That said, I don't think it is all Mike Dunn's fault, the ground work was laid by the previous regime.

Jim Wahl · 07-20-2016, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Tracy Robbins

I think this is when you saw Bill Bader exit then Polburn and Scooter Peaco took over...that's when things began going down hill. Peaco tried to tell everyone that they were sportsman friendly and you could talk to him anytime. You could talk to him but it was like talking to a brick wall and they were dead set on changing what Bader had built! What a shame to see it go away, we have had a lot of great years racing and meeting new friends from all over the country but it will never be like it once was. That said, I don't think it is all Mike Dunn's fault, the ground work was laid by the previous regime.

I think you have to remember that IHRA has been bought and sold twice in the last 10 years. They are currently owned by IRG, an insurance company. You have to know that whatever happens, good or bad, it is not without approval of the "mother" company. It IS possible that Dunn was brought in to slice and dice IHRA into an all "Pro" Nitro WWF style show. After all money is the root of all evil, right? Jim

BTW - I have a call in to Scooter and Mike.

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Dave Ribeiro · 07-20-2016, 03:51 PM

Jim, Tracy is right-on about this not being Mike Dunn' fault .. Back about 4-5 years ago when IHRA left VMP and went to Memphis... Tracy was right , it was after Bader had left that things got much worse !!! I don't think any one at Corporate cares about Sportsman Racers .... All we do is get increasing entry fee's & less prize money than 30 years ago ????
Let's hope IHRA can get their Act Together , because we Racer's need
to have options on where to Race ? Remember, the worst thing that can happen to us , Is to have only one place to Race your car ... When you don't have Choice's, you are Stuck !!!!

Pinballer · 07-20-2016, 09:01 PM

My hope is that IHRA is simply going through a reorganization and probably needs some time to sort out everything. If this isn't the case, and they intend to go nitro and not much else, they'll die out for sure. All that you need to verify this is a look over at the other outfit.

The sportsman racer-- liked or not by either sanctioning body, is the true backbone of competitive drag racing. It's the first step on the ladder to moving up to the professional classes. The one thing class racing has over regular bracket racing is a heapin' helpin' of "class". The class cars all look great, they run absolutely fantastic once you understand what they're doing and how stringent their rules are, and the racer's pride in their car's performance and their dedication to the craft is second to none. In fact, more is probably asked of this guy or gal than anyone else in racing. When was the last time your regular weekend bracket racer was demanded to tear their engine down for inspection?

The sanctioning bodies would do well to keep featuring sportsman racing, not throw it away. If it ends up that they ARE that dumb and kick it to the curb, hopefully somebody else will step up and create a league for it. The racers will attend, there's plenty of us, and all that's asked by them is a safe and fairly prepared place to do it and a payout that is reasonable for the entry fee demanded.

GUMP · 07-20-2016, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Tracy Robbins

I think this is when you saw Bill Bader exit then Polburn and Scooter Peaco took over...that's when things began going down hill.

I really enjoyed running the IHRA races when Bill Bader was the boss. It's a shame that they have slowly reduced it to nothing.

Dick Butler · 07-20-2016, 03:42 PM

Imagine, everyone speaks of the demise of IHRA, NHRA with good reason. I believe the model of drag racing is so flawed it must die in this form. Bracket racing will never replace heads up all out racing. Watch round track grow because of low cost and many cases spec or sealed motors.
Cut the costs, simplify the car specs, make TIGHT rules on technology and some kids might enjoy. Very few who know Pokémon know cars because of costs and friends.
Any basic class would be better than current flood of variables and factors.
I miss the class racing but not the issues created by the classes and rules.

07-19-2016, 08:00 PM	#1
ss wannabee Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 663 Likes: 0 Liked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Is IHRA Going Under? Does this mean that the 2016 season is "Dunn" as well? Get it? Seriously folks, I was looking at going to the Empire double event next month and wanted to ask the boss for a couple days off...any hints about what happens for the rest of this season?

07-19-2016, 11:10 PM	#3
larrylomascolo Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Ontario,canada Posts: 440 Likes: 70 Liked 66 Times in 29 Posts	Re: Is IHRA Going Under? And who would have thought at one time ihra was so close in the same strength as nhra ,,When this nitro jam bull crap was the demise of the format and tourn. of champ,,when ihra had the same format as nhra,it seemed the strongest,and i thought like others M.Dunn was the savior of sac. body ,he was there to pull the plug,This is sad for motorsports if this does happen .

07-20-2016, 03:51 PM	#6
Dave Ribeiro VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Williamsburg, Va.---USA Posts: 1,827 Likes: 1,612 Liked 56 Times in 27 Posts	Re: Is IHRA Going Under? Jim, Tracy is right-on about this not being Mike Dunn' fault .. Back about 4-5 years ago when IHRA left VMP and went to Memphis... Tracy was right , it was after Bader had left that things got much worse !!! I don't think any one at Corporate cares about Sportsman Racers .... All we do is get increasing entry fee's & less prize money than 30 years ago ???? Let's hope IHRA can get their Act Together , because we Racer's need to have options on where to Race ? Remember, the worst thing that can happen to us , Is to have only one place to Race your car ... When you don't have Choice's, you are Stuck !!!! __________________ Dave Ribeiro 1033 STK

07-20-2016, 09:01 PM	#7
Pinballer Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Suburbs of fabulous Lerna IL Posts: 215 Likes: 10 Liked 13 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Is IHRA Going Under? My hope is that IHRA is simply going through a reorganization and probably needs some time to sort out everything. If this isn't the case, and they intend to go nitro and not much else, they'll die out for sure. All that you need to verify this is a look over at the other outfit. The sportsman racer-- liked or not by either sanctioning body, is the true backbone of competitive drag racing. It's the first step on the ladder to moving up to the professional classes. The one thing class racing has over regular bracket racing is a heapin' helpin' of "class". The class cars all look great, they run absolutely fantastic once you understand what they're doing and how stringent their rules are, and the racer's pride in their car's performance and their dedication to the craft is second to none. In fact, more is probably asked of this guy or gal than anyone else in racing. When was the last time your regular weekend bracket racer was demanded to tear their engine down for inspection? The sanctioning bodies would do well to keep featuring sportsman racing, not throw it away. If it ends up that they ARE that dumb and kick it to the curb, hopefully somebody else will step up and create a league for it. The racers will attend, there's plenty of us, and all that's asked by them is a safe and fairly prepared place to do it and a payout that is reasonable for the entry fee demanded. __________________ Brian Saunders Lerna IL '79 AMX T/SA 3790 currently being resurrected

07-20-2016, 03:42 PM	#9
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Is IHRA Going Under? Imagine, everyone speaks of the demise of IHRA, NHRA with good reason. I believe the model of drag racing is so flawed it must die in this form. Bracket racing will never replace heads up all out racing. Watch round track grow because of low cost and many cases spec or sealed motors. Cut the costs, simplify the car specs, make TIGHT rules on technology and some kids might enjoy. Very few who know Pokémon know cars because of costs and friends. Any basic class would be better than current flood of variables and factors. I miss the class racing but not the issues created by the classes and rules.