A case for Tru-Start

Charley Downing · 11-17-2016, 11:55 PM

If you turn it red you don't deserve to win end of story.

Kyle how many races at the spring fling were changed because of this rule?

I don't care if I red light less then the faster car, if I red light I deserve to loose. The slow car get the clean tree. and the fast car gets the first red light rule. it all balances out.
I hope I get to race some of these fast guys that are watching my tree to see if I red light first.

S/ST J718 · 11-18-2016, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Charley Downing

the slow car get the clean tree. and the fast car gets the first red light rule. it all balances out.
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Fast car tree is clean as slow car when using Cross talk, I'm missing balance?

Charley Downing · 11-18-2016, 12:16 AM

last time I checked there's no cross talk in STK or SS. How does cross talk work with foot brake cars and no electronics?

Mickey and I are going to implement a new rule for this topic. If you don't run stk or ss you don't get to vote or comment on this topic. I know this eliminates a few of you but its for the better.

S/ST J718 · 11-18-2016, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Charley Downing

last time I checked there's no cross talk in STK or SS. How does cross talk work with foot brake cars and no electronics?

Mickey and I are going to implement a new rule for this topic. If you don't run stk or ss you don't get to vote or comment on this topic. I know this eliminates a few of you but its for the better.

Sorry stepping out of here......

Dave Noll · 11-18-2016, 04:31 AM

I appreciate Kyle chiming in and giving his reasoning behind their implementation of tru-start. Thanks.

Some poster's to this thread feel that tru-start should just be for Box racers and then when Box racers chime in, a couple of the posters "implement a new rule" ? OK, we get it. You don't like tru-start. You've made your point. When I started this thread, I said about the example that I cited, "it's something to think about." You have pushed the subject far past that point and WAY past humor.

Larry Hill · 11-18-2016, 09:00 AM

Charlie Bob it's called the Chuck Rayburn rule: "If you don't have one, you have no vote!"

Jeff Stout · 11-18-2016, 10:13 AM

Clean tree argument is a joke. Here is a thought a few of you fast guys throw out. Get a slower car if a lack of a clean tree is a problem. If your faster and watching slow cars tree come down or top bulbs flashing again when slow car leaves your not focusing on task at hand. Ive been the faster car for years in SS and bracket and block out other side of tree and focus on my side. Fast car gets the first red light advantage and windshield view on how the race progresses. Slow car gets the first chance to lose on redlight and TRY to watch in rear view mirror on how the race progresses.Yes I no longer have a SS number but I'm allowed on this site so I have an opinion until moderator kicks me off.
PS. I almost forgot. Flame away!

Mike Pearson · 11-18-2016, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Charley Downing

If you turn it red you don't deserve to win end of story.

Kyle how many races at the spring fling were changed because of this rule?

I don't care if I red light less then the faster car, if I red light I deserve to loose. The slow car get the clean tree. and the fast car gets the first red light rule. it all balances out.
I hope I get to race some of these fast guys that are watching my tree to see if I red light first.

So if you break out do you still deserve to win? Or should it be who ever breaks out first should be the looser. I really don't understand why anyone would be against leveling the playing field with the Tru-Start system. Most of what is argued back and forth on this forum is about having a level playing field.

Billy Nees · 11-18-2016, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Pearson

Most of what is argued back and forth on this forum is about having a level playing field.

Umm, most of what's argued back and forth on this forum is personal agenda!

Jeff Stout · 11-18-2016, 10:59 AM

2 cars that have the same dial and both go red the worst red light loses. Now just because 2 cars leave at a different time the worst red light doesn't count. Kind of a double standard. Its a rule for cars dialing the same but then the rule is tossed when 2 cars leave at a different time. Sounds like a level playing field to me.
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We all except the rule if 2 cars break out and furthest from dial in loses. Doesn't matter who was faster or slower or crossed the finish line first. Why doesn't worst redlight get the same respect.

11-17-2016, 11:55 PM	#1
Charley Downing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 761 Likes: 16 Liked 633 Times in 88 Posts	Re: A case for Tru-Start If you turn it red you don't deserve to win end of story. Kyle how many races at the spring fling were changed because of this rule? I don't care if I red light less then the faster car, if I red light I deserve to loose. The slow car get the clean tree. and the fast car gets the first red light rule. it all balances out. I hope I get to race some of these fast guys that are watching my tree to see if I red light first. __________________ Charley Downing 3548 STK

11-18-2016, 12:16 AM	#3
Charley Downing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 761 Likes: 16 Liked 633 Times in 88 Posts	Re: A case for Tru-Start last time I checked there's no cross talk in STK or SS. How does cross talk work with foot brake cars and no electronics? Mickey and I are going to implement a new rule for this topic. If you don't run stk or ss you don't get to vote or comment on this topic. I know this eliminates a few of you but its for the better. __________________ Charley Downing 3548 STK Last edited by Charley Downing; 11-18-2016 at 12:23 AM.

11-18-2016, 04:31 AM	#5
Dave Noll Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Div. 6, Eastern, WA Posts: 710 Likes: 2,676 Liked 240 Times in 112 Posts	Re: A case for Tru-Start I appreciate Kyle chiming in and giving his reasoning behind their implementation of tru-start. Thanks. Some poster's to this thread feel that tru-start should just be for Box racers and then when Box racers chime in, a couple of the posters "implement a new rule" ? OK, we get it. You don't like tru-start. You've made your point. When I started this thread, I said about the example that I cited, "it's something to think about." You have pushed the subject far past that point and WAY past humor. __________________ Dave Noll, EF/S ,?/SA 6526

11-18-2016, 09:00 AM	#6
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,648 Likes: 1,941 Liked 10,759 Times in 2,236 Posts	Re: A case for Tru-Start Charlie Bob it's called the Chuck Rayburn rule: "If you don't have one, you have no vote!" __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817

11-18-2016, 10:13 AM	#7
Jeff Stout VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: phoenix Posts: 1,486 Likes: 66 Liked 704 Times in 281 Posts	Re: A case for Tru-Start Clean tree argument is a joke. Here is a thought a few of you fast guys throw out. Get a slower car if a lack of a clean tree is a problem. If your faster and watching slow cars tree come down or top bulbs flashing again when slow car leaves your not focusing on task at hand. Ive been the faster car for years in SS and bracket and block out other side of tree and focus on my side. Fast car gets the first red light advantage and windshield view on how the race progresses. Slow car gets the first chance to lose on redlight and TRY to watch in rear view mirror on how the race progresses.Yes I no longer have a SS number but I'm allowed on this site so I have an opinion until moderator kicks me off. PS. I almost forgot. Flame away! Last edited by Jeff Stout; 11-18-2016 at 10:19 AM. Reason: more

11-18-2016, 10:59 AM	#10
Jeff Stout VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: phoenix Posts: 1,486 Likes: 66 Liked 704 Times in 281 Posts	Re: A case for Tru-Start 2 cars that have the same dial and both go red the worst red light loses. Now just because 2 cars leave at a different time the worst red light doesn't count. Kind of a double standard. Its a rule for cars dialing the same but then the rule is tossed when 2 cars leave at a different time. Sounds like a level playing field to me. . We all except the rule if 2 cars break out and furthest from dial in loses. Doesn't matter who was faster or slower or crossed the finish line first. Why doesn't worst redlight get the same respect.