A case for Tru-Start

[Mickey Whaley]

Originally Posted by 4406mopar

Mickey, don't try to make any sense out of the last 8 years, it cannot be done.

HAHA you are right, glad everybody voiced their opinion its good to hear racer input to agree or disagree never will please all but can think about it.

[Rusty Gillis]

I started racing Super Stock back in 1969 and was forced to quit racing Super Stock due to the gas shortage back in 1975. I restored my car car in 1992 to race in Stock and raced on and off until 2008. I plan on racing a little in stock next year and think it is great idea. The person that breaks out the most loses so what is the difference when you red light the worst you should lose.

[Don Kennedy]

Originally Posted by Jeff Stout

2 cars that have the same dial and both go red the worst red light loses. Now just because 2 cars leave at a different time the worst red light doesn't count. Kind of a double standard. Its a rule for cars dialing the same but then the rule is tossed when 2 cars leave at a different time. Sounds like a level playing field to me.
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We all except the rule if 2 cars break out and furthest from dial in loses. Doesn't matter who was faster or slower or crossed the finish line first. Why doesn't worst redlight get the same respect.

a Level playing field
If these post is turning into make sure the playing field is level I suspect there are many things other than tru start should be considered lol.
Like if You have been racing over 50 years you get a break>lol
Or how about if you drive a certain make of car you get a break,lol
Or how about if you are a professional driver you cannot compete against an amateur, lol
Or how about if you use a certain rear tire you get a break.lol
or how about if you voted one way you get a break.lol
or how about if you wear glasses you get a break

[Bobby DiDomenico]

Originally Posted by Don Morris

In the case of two cars with the same dial, the car with the worst redlight is also the first to redlight.

Correct Don and they both also had the same opportunity to red light. Tru-Start now allows both cars the opportunity to red light in handicap races. At least as explained by the guys who asked for it to be designed and installed.

[Jeff Stout]

Originally Posted by Don Morris

In the case of two cars with the same dial, the car with the worst redlight is also the first to redlight.

Maybe first or worst should apply here if cars leave at different times

[Bruce Noland]

This whole deal is about a couple of guys going after the low hanging fruit in an effort to make a few bucks. They would be giving the software away if they were really trying to do as they say.

And, at least one of these guys arguing for Tru-Start hasn't raced in 10 years. And some don't race Stock or Super Stock at all.

Just another winter time crap thread!

Racing will resume in a couple months and this will disappear again.

[Don Morris]

Originally Posted by Bobby DiDomenico

Correct Don and they both also had the same opportunity to red light. Tru-Start now allows both cars the opportunity to red light in handicap races. At least as explained by the guys who asked for it to be designed and installed.

Bobby,
One of the fundamentals of drag racing is that you can not leave on a red light and therefore gain an advantage on your opponent. If you do, you've broken one of the basic rules in drag racing. In NHRA class racing you have committed a foul start that results in an immediate DQ. Your opponent at that moment is for all intents and purposes making a single run and is not subject to rules on redlights and breakouts. (I know you know all this)


Under the T-S system in a handicap race, if the slower car redlights he is NOT immediately DQd and can in fact win that round if the faster car redlights by a greater amount. In the case where the slower car goes on green and the faster car redlights, the faster car IS automatically DQd. If fairness is being sought using the T-S system, why does the slower car, in the last instance, get a second chance to win the round and the faster car doesn't (he's immediately DQd)? Sounds like the for-sure DQ is shifted to the faster car in a handicap race.


I'm not unloading on Bobby, it was just a place to get started.

[7423]

Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

This whole deal is about a couple of guys going after the low hanging fruit in an effort to make a few bucks. They would be giving the software away if they were really trying to do as they say.

And, at least one of these guys arguing for Tru-Start hasn't raced in 10 years. And some don't race Stock or Super Stock at all.

Just another winter time crap thread!

Racing will resume in a couple months and this will disappear again.

With 128 responses to this thread, this one gets the biggest<><>WOW<><> !!! I don't think I have ever had a loss for words until now.............................just WAY WOW !!

[Mark Faul]

Originally Posted by Don Morris

Bobby,
One of the fundamentals of drag racing is that you can not leave on a red light and therefore gain an advantage on your opponent. If you do, you've broken one of the basic rules in drag racing. In NHRA class racing you have committed a foul start that results in an immediate DQ. Your opponent at that moment is for all intents and purposes making a single run and is not subject to rules on redlights and breakouts. (I know you know all this).

Yes, but every violation has a weight placed on it. If I red light, then you go on your "single" and hit the wall, I'm reinstated. Same thing if you fail fuel check or weight. Every thing is a first or worse situation. Except for the red lights.

I don't see any logical explanation through this entire thread why guys are opposed to this. Just because it's the way it's always been? I've ran super stock for 20 years and the purse has always been $1800 to win. Should that not change also????

Even if it affects just one race, it's worth it in my opinion.

Rant over

[Jeff Stout]

Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

This whole deal is about a couple of guys going after the low hanging fruit in an effort to make a few bucks. They would be giving the software away if they were really trying to do as they say.

And, at least one of these guys arguing for Tru-Start hasn't raced in 10 years. And some don't race Stock or Super Stock at all.

Just another winter time crap thread!

Racing will resume in a couple months and this will disappear again.

I'm guessing this is me. I haven't raced class for many years as I was Race director for over 8 years at Speedworld and could never get the time off and sold car. Speedworld is closed and I focused on selling my business and property. That happened 1 year ago. I currently have been racing street car events and No Prep races. I have gathered so many parts for my stock eliminator Oldsmobile. This is my winter project.
Nobody can answer why 2 cars leave together and worst red light counts but because 2 cars leave at a different time the worst red light does NOT count. By the current thinking 2 cars leave together ( dial the same) and both red light the car with the slower ET on the time slip should be the loser. Makes no sense.