Steering question

PozQB14 · 12-05-2016, 10:12 AM

What are the stipulations on steering dampers, specifically on a 3rd gen Camaro? Stock and/or super stock. Getting some nasty tire shimmy on the landing.

Mike Pearson · 12-05-2016, 11:39 AM

Ed Quay has a nice kit for that car. Typically if you have shimmy something is loose. I had the same issue on my gen 1 Camaro. Turned out the top bolts on the steering box were loose. Check to make sure everything in the steering system is tight and no slop

PozQB14 · 12-05-2016, 12:05 PM

Thanks Mike, I saw that damper but is it legal in stock/super stock? I'm pretty vigilant on checking the car over between runs, keeps my mind busy.

MR DERBY CITY · 12-05-2016, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by PozQB14

Thanks Mike, I saw that damper but is it legal in stock/super stock? I'm pretty vigilant on checking the car over between runs, keeps my mind busy.

Almost all 3rd gen camaros run that ed quay piece, actually an early VW absorber...its legal and very important if you don't want to shake the fillings out of your teeth....

PozQB14 · 12-05-2016, 01:45 PM

Thats the million dollar answer I was looking for, thanks!!

Eman · 12-07-2016, 09:38 AM

Just about every S or SS 3rd gen has one, the others will have one if they wheelstand. As stated there is a problem on those cars cracking the frame behind the steering box and the frame rails flexing. There is actually a factory piece and it's sold aftermarket also that ties the L and R rails with a bar between the sway bar mounts to stop flex.

Ed Wright · 12-07-2016, 09:45 AM

Wonder what makes the 3rd gen cars shimmy at landing without one? My 4th gen never has. This is the first I've heard of this. Interesting.

PozQB14 · 12-07-2016, 10:14 AM

Up until this past weekend I never really made enough power to even bring the front wheels off the ground. So it definitely surprised me when the steering wheel went nuts for a quick second. Probably going to go with the Quay damper and see how that works. I think it has to be welded on.

MR DERBY CITY · 12-07-2016, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by PozQB14

Up until this past weekend I never really made enough power to even bring the front wheels off the ground. So it definitely surprised me when the steering wheel went nuts for a quick second. Probably going to go with the Quay damper and see how that works. I think it has to be welded on.

2 small brackets need to be welded......

Signman · 12-07-2016, 11:31 AM

Check your steering completely!
Had violent steering wheel shake out of the blue one weekend at Atco a few years ago.
After it left and picked the wheels up steering wheel started shaking and got worse until I stopped the car on the track. Went back to the pits checked what I could tried again same thing.
Tie rod ends and steering box were tight did the standard check on the ball joints for vertical movement but on further inspection there was ball joint movement front to rear.
Replaced the ball joints and added the damper from Pete Z for safety in the future. Pete mentioned tightening the large nut on the bottom of the idler arm if OEM will act like a damper.

12-05-2016, 10:12 AM	#1
PozQB14 Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Youngsville, NC Posts: 129 Likes: 24 Liked 42 Times in 17 Posts	Steering question What are the stipulations on steering dampers, specifically on a 3rd gen Camaro? Stock and/or super stock. Getting some nasty tire shimmy on the landing.

12-05-2016, 11:39 AM	#2
Mike Pearson VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,444 Likes: 613 Liked 1,917 Times in 575 Posts	Re: Steering question Ed Quay has a nice kit for that car. Typically if you have shimmy something is loose. I had the same issue on my gen 1 Camaro. Turned out the top bolts on the steering box were loose. Check to make sure everything in the steering system is tight and no slop __________________ Mike Pearson 2485 SS

12-05-2016, 12:05 PM	#3
PozQB14 Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Youngsville, NC Posts: 129 Likes: 24 Liked 42 Times in 17 Posts	Re: Steering question Thanks Mike, I saw that damper but is it legal in stock/super stock? I'm pretty vigilant on checking the car over between runs, keeps my mind busy.

12-05-2016, 01:45 PM	#5
PozQB14 Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Youngsville, NC Posts: 129 Likes: 24 Liked 42 Times in 17 Posts	Re: Steering question Thats the million dollar answer I was looking for, thanks!!

12-07-2016, 09:38 AM	#6
Eman Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: E TN Posts: 473 Likes: 16 Liked 133 Times in 76 Posts	Re: Steering question Just about every S or SS 3rd gen has one, the others will have one if they wheelstand. As stated there is a problem on those cars cracking the frame behind the steering box and the frame rails flexing. There is actually a factory piece and it's sold aftermarket also that ties the L and R rails with a bar between the sway bar mounts to stop flex.

12-07-2016, 09:45 AM	#7
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Steering question Wonder what makes the 3rd gen cars shimmy at landing without one? My 4th gen never has. This is the first I've heard of this. Interesting. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

12-07-2016, 10:14 AM	#8
PozQB14 Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Youngsville, NC Posts: 129 Likes: 24 Liked 42 Times in 17 Posts	Re: Steering question Up until this past weekend I never really made enough power to even bring the front wheels off the ground. So it definitely surprised me when the steering wheel went nuts for a quick second. Probably going to go with the Quay damper and see how that works. I think it has to be welded on.

12-07-2016, 11:31 AM	#10
Signman Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lower Slower Delaware Posts: 535 Likes: 22 Liked 269 Times in 99 Posts	Re: Steering question Check your steering completely! Had violent steering wheel shake out of the blue one weekend at Atco a few years ago. After it left and picked the wheels up steering wheel started shaking and got worse until I stopped the car on the track. Went back to the pits checked what I could tried again same thing. Tie rod ends and steering box were tight did the standard check on the ball joints for vertical movement but on further inspection there was ball joint movement front to rear. Replaced the ball joints and added the damper from Pete Z for safety in the future. Pete mentioned tightening the large nut on the bottom of the idler arm if OEM will act like a damper. __________________ Frank Ferrucci I/SA 1271 "Be Thankful for the Gifts You are Given"