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Old 02-05-2017, 02:53 PM   #1
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I guess while the topic is up , as a 340 owner myself and knowing the 2 aluminum intakes that have factory part numbers, not really knowing the other brands, did any of them receive alternative intakes back in the day?? Just curious!! Or was Edelbrock only sleeping with Chrysler engineers???....,,
AMC had an Edelbrock R4B manifold with an AMC part number and in the AMC parts book. But when it was proposed as a legal part a few years ago, it was squashed like a cockroach. I guess the smell of this MoPar cockroach has been ignored.
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Old 02-05-2017, 05:09 PM   #2
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AMC had an Edelbrock R4B manifold with an AMC part number and in the AMC parts book. But when it was proposed as a legal part a few years ago, it was squashed like a cockroach. I guess the smell of this MoPar cockroach has been ignored.


and I got blamed for it...

and the QFT carb.
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Old 02-05-2017, 05:53 PM   #3
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I do have all the paper work and the story on the AMC issues. I was poking fun at Jeff Lee. There was actually a couple more guys that "Lost Bigger" in that deal than he did. I had 2 engine customers involved when the AMC approvals were rescinded. Yes, it cost me and them, but it was probably the right thing for NHRA to do. This manifold deal I have no dog in, but if it is going to be allowed they should look at the Z-28 Cross Ram and the '67 L-88, (can you say Camaro Cowl Hood)...to apply the same fairness and the Spirit of making the rules. At the Least those 2 or 3 issues need to be addressed. The LD manifold & AVS.. OK it fits, but for a Thermo Quad carb, come on...
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Old 02-05-2017, 06:26 PM   #4
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I do have all the paper work and the story on the AMC issues. I was poking fun at Jeff Lee. There was actually a couple more guys that "Lost Bigger" in that deal than he did. I had 2 engine customers involved when the AMC approvals were rescinded. Yes, it cost me and them, but it was probably the right thing for NHRA to do. This manifold deal I have no dog in, but if it is going to be allowed they should look at the Z-28 Cross Ram and the '67 L-88, (can you say Camaro Cowl Hood)...to apply the same fairness and the Spirit of making the rules. At the Least those 2 or 3 issues need to be addressed. The LD manifold & AVS.. OK it fits, but for a Thermo Quad carb, come on...
I'm sure the 71 year will be corrected in the guide. 68-70 only AVS
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I'm sure the 71 year will be corrected in the guide. 68-70 only AVS
I have the spread bore version of the LD340 with the Chrysler part number on it..and yes it's an unmodified original and no its not for sale. lol

And no, I don't currently have a dog in the fight!
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I have the spread bore version of the LD340 with the Chrysler part number on it..and yes it's an unmodified original and no its not for sale. lol

And no, I don't currently have a dog in the fight!
Gordie,
Is it the same part # as the square bore AVS manifold?
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Gordie,
Is it the same part # as the square bore AVS manifold?
George,
I am currently out of state and can't lay my eyes on them right now, but am 99.9% sure it is the same # as the square bore version..I have 2 of the square bore version and 2 of the spread bore.
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I do have all the paper work and the story on the AMC issues. I was poking fun at Jeff Lee. There was actually a couple more guys that "Lost Bigger" in that deal than he did. I had 2 engine customers involved when the AMC approvals were rescinded. Yes, it cost me and them, but it was probably the right thing for NHRA to do. This manifold deal I have no dog in, but if it is going to be allowed they should look at the Z-28 Cross Ram and the '67 L-88, (can you say Camaro Cowl Hood)...to apply the same fairness and the Spirit of making the rules. At the Least those 2 or 3 issues need to be addressed. The LD manifold & AVS.. OK it fits, but for a Thermo Quad carb, come on...

Adger,

I understand what you are saying, however, if it was the right thing to do by NHRA, why would they make an example with the AMC racers, the smallest OEM brand/make in numbers of competitors, when there are other makes/brands that were given even bigger allowances in the past?

How about Boss 351 engines with Holley carburetors?
How about Chevy 283 engines with 327 intakes?
How about the single carburetor Hemi engine that was a NASCAR option?
How about higher lift off road cams for FE engines that were allowed just with a letter?

...and let's not forget illegal spec pistons when compared to the OEM piston, that have been approved?

I could write a book regarding the inconsistencies when changes were applied and allowed without any justifiable objective evidence or just by the stroke of a pen.

My point is that if NHRA was going to make an example, they should have made it across the board and not on a specific make and then continue approving aftermarket parts on other makes and brands.

Like Dr. Spock would say, "it's illogical"!

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Old 02-05-2017, 10:43 PM   #9
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Quote: The powers to be i'm sure will manage it all in some form or another eventually.

Can someone tell me the last time the chiefs in Glendora made a sensible decision?
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How about Boss 351 engines with Holley carburetors?
Uh ..... Yeah, there's one of those manifolds (the "D" unit) on E-Bay now for $2700. Makes 700 for the LD340 sound like a steal.
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