Pure Stock Challenge - IHRA

[efi v6]

I also agree ihra pure stock is a great start for just getting in the game or ona budget. I also think ihra should open up pure stock to late model cars!!! There is alot of them out there and they do want a place to race competitively with rules on mods that they can do them selfs and learn and have fun. Hey Alan maybe ihra would get tracks closer to both you and me nothing close in jersey ether. Well just some thoughts i would share.
Tony K.

[Hacksaw]

Originally Posted by efi v6

I also agree ihra pure stock is a great start for just getting in the game or ona budget. I also think ihra should open up pure stock to late model cars!!! There is alot of them out there and they do want a place to race competitively with rules on mods that they can do them selfs and learn and have fun. Hey Alan maybe ihra would get tracks closer to both you and me nothing close in jersey ether. Well just some thoughts i would share.
Tony K.

Slow down Tiger. Now you want guys to drive in off the street, change to slicks (maybe) and run Stock elim?

[Dan Fahey]

Originally Posted by Hacksaw

Slow down Tiger. Now you want guys to drive in off the street, change to slicks (maybe) and run Stock elim?

YEAH that is what I did for a good while running IHRA..!
Called Old School !!
In fact did that for 15 years Bracket racing.
After breaking a few things bought a trailer last year.

Dan

[Dan Fahey]

Originally Posted by efi v6

I also agree ihra pure stock is a great start for just getting in the game or ona budget. I also think ihra should open up pure stock to late model cars!!! There is alot of them out there and they do want a place to race competitively with rules on mods that they can do them selfs and learn and have fun. Hey Alan maybe ihra would get tracks closer to both you and me nothing close in jersey ether. Well just some thoughts i would share.
Tony K.

Tony...I agree and have to work on them.
Seems they rely on NHRA for the Specs.
Yet we did the due diligence to get your Mustang certified.
Also need the community to help push this..

I will bring this up with Jon O'Neal when I meet them.
2005 as the limit ... at least increase it one or two years at a time.

Dan

[efi v6]

Dan,
Just so everyone knows i did send Mike Dunn a E-Mail on what happen with the mustang and how much work me and you along with others to get ihra and Mike Baker to approve it for pure stock only to have it taken away a few months later by a year limit witch imo should be current and back. Hacksaw as far as driving your car to the track and racing,whats wrong with that ! Open you eyes my friend this is how it all started. Even Big Daddy use to drive his superstock car to the track when he started racing. Dan if there is anything else i can do let me know.
Tony K.

[Hacksaw]

Originally Posted by efi v6

Dan,
IHacksaw as far as driving your car to the track and racing,whats wrong with that ! Open you eyes my friend this is how it all started. Even Big Daddy use to drive his superstock car to the track when he started racing. Dan if there is anything else i can do let me know.
Tony K.

There was no superstock when Big started racing and if drove his car to the track I'm sure he removed the exhaust. No worries of water dripping out of the tailpipes.

[ALMACK]

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey

Tony...I agree and have to work on them.
Seems they rely on NHRA for the Specs.
Yet we did the due diligence to get your Mustang certified.
Also need the community to help push this..

I will bring this up with Jon O'Neal when I meet them.
2005 as the limit ... at least increase it one or two years at a time.

Dan

At the very least, maybe make it a floating year cutoff...10 yr. old and older ?
If so, 2008 models would be legal next year.

The only thing stopping me right now from running my 2005 GT in Pure Stock is the cam.
IHRA needs for Ford to submit the 2005 cam specs.

That car will run the PS index right now and it still has the stock exh. manifolds with stock cat. convertors, stock 3.31 rear gears and completely stock auto trans.

[ALMACK]

Originally Posted by efi v6

I also agree ihra pure stock is a great start for just getting in the game or ona budget. I also think ihra should open up pure stock to late model cars!!! There is alot of them out there and they do want a place to race competitively with rules on mods that they can do them selfs and learn and have fun. Hey Alan maybe ihra would get tracks closer to both you and me nothing close in jersey ether. Well just some thoughts i would share.
Tony K.

I hated to hear that your 3.7 Mustang was no longer legal in PS Tony.
I still wonder if maybe the variable cam deal kinda freaked out tech and rather than find a way to check those cams, they simply decided it wasn't worth the hassle to allow them ?

Or...was it a political decision based on pressure from some well financed racers that do not like late models ? Who knows...

I have no idea what the real reason was why they backtracked on your car, but that was the first thing I thought when I heard that the newer cars were not legal.

[ALMACK]

Some random thoughts:


It's obvious NHRA will never go backwards in Stock Eliminator, so we will never see a "Junior Stock " type deal ever again.

IHRA has very limited exposure in the states, thus the Pure Stockers have very few places to race.

Other than IHRA, the only group that gladly welcomes IHRA Pure Stockers is the NMCA...they welcome ALL IHRA class cars.

I plan to help support the NMCA with their new combo races this year by entering into their Bowling Green and Indy races.

It would be great tho if the Pure Stock Drags had a separate class that welcomed the IHRA Pure Stockers

http://www.psmcdr.com/

[Dan Fahey]

Originally Posted by ALMACK

Some random thoughts:


It's obvious NHRA will never go backwards in Stock Eliminator, so we will never see a "Junior Stock " type deal ever again.

IHRA has very limited exposure in the states, thus the Pure Stockers have very few places to race.

Other than IHRA, the only group that gladly welcomes IHRA Pure Stockers is the NMCA...they welcome ALL IHRA class cars.

I plan to help support the NMCA with their new combo races this year by entering into their Bowling Green and Indy races.

It would be great tho if the Pure Stock Drags had a separate class that welcomed the IHRA Pure Stockers

http://www.psmcdr.com/

Allan;
You just gave me an idea!
I will see if NMCA will allow the Pure Stock Challenge added to their races?
Then we need to beat on NHRA.
Would love to invite the Pure Stock Drag guys in as well.

As for moving the 2005 limit.
IHRA has very few people who can measure our Cams.
Remember it is the Old Stocker Rules for Overlap and Duration.
I know it it a pain to sort through the Blueprinted Cams.

Think the deal should be changed to a max spring pressure.
Like they have been giving us around 100lb seat for most of us.
Have a limit on the other cars that came Stock with higher pressure.
Toss the complex cam Duration measurement and measure Lift only.
Simplifies the process.

It is called the KISS principle...Keep it sweet and Simple!

This will take time to negotiate.
Everything else remains the same with lifters and rockers.
The IHRA guys work their butts off.
Teching a Pure Stocker is time consuming and new rational process needs to be implemented..

But hey..we are talking and the community is jelling!

Hacksaw btw thank you for chiming in...it is appreciated!

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