Suggestion for New Pure Stockers

efi v6 · 03-31-2017, 07:26 PM

Dan,
Good thoughts 👍 Here are some of my suggestions
1) factory type wheels aftermarket ok but must be oem sizes (no light weight wheels) bogarts etc.
2) DOT Tires -drag radials , et streets etc. No full on slicks
3) stock manifolds or shorty headers only
4) must keep cat. Converters in stock location after market high flow ok
5) aftermarket mufflers ok in stock location factory style full exhaust
6) stock oem electronics and pcm any tune
7) stock oem trans. and torque converter
I think thats it for now i was also considering cost along with mods.
as far as tech goes maybe they can use tech stickers so they dont have to tech the whole car to save time.
Tony K.

John Kelley · 04-01-2017, 03:56 PM

Get a REAL tech man and throw them all OUT !!!!

efi v6 · 04-01-2017, 05:58 PM

Meaning what??
Tony K.

Dan Fahey · 04-01-2017, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by John Kelley

Get a REAL tech man and throw them all OUT !!!!

There is a lot to Know!
The lower Classes have more rules just because!
Brackets have the most liberal rules!
Stock requires a huge knowledge base.
Some of the nit picky issues with Stock ended up becoming liberalized.
The faster they went the more safety features.
After a long while we have what we have today.

Pure Stock tech processes are more detailed than regular Stock.
But can be made to be a whole bunch easier with a few changes!

There is a huge pent up demand and market base for new Pure Stockers.
The manufacturers and IHRA will benefit.
The Fans will show up because they are curious.
They don't understand 60s cars but they know the current ones.

There has to be a conversation and consensus to build this class.
Done properly a whole new generation of cars and kids will show up to compete.

The same dynamics are in play as it was in our time!

IHRA ..... Tear Down That Wall!

D

efi v6 · 04-01-2017, 08:56 PM

X2

Jim Woods · 04-01-2017, 11:09 PM

I agree with certain suggestions on this subject.The proper training is paramount to the full enforcement of the class rules.I believe there is not a tech man in any sanctioning body that doesn't want to do the best job that they can.Pure stock is the one class with the most stringent rules by far.There always seems to be plenty of people that can set back and tell everyone how bad the tech ppl are.Well why don't you go to the head of the line and become an official and tech person? Class RACING needs your expertise now more than ever.It's going to take all involved to keep s/ss alive as we know it.I feel I can say this due to have given 7 yrs. to trying to keep a level and fair playing field.in all classes by enforcing the the rules as written. So the next time you talk with a tech person or race official.why don't you thank them instead of talking trash.They are there out of the love of the sport ,without them there would not be an event.Good luck to all in 2017 and may the win lights be plentiful in your lane.
Jim Woods --- former IHRA tech.

ALMACK · 04-02-2017, 12:38 PM

I like the sounds of all this, but tech would be the stumbling block.

I just wished someone at Ford would supply the cam specs for my 2005 Mustang GT to IHRA so I can run Pure Stock with it.

ALMACK · 04-02-2017, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Woods

I agree with certain suggestions on this subject.The proper training is paramount to the full enforcement of the class rules.I believe there is not a tech man in any sanctioning body that doesn't want to do the best job that they can.Pure stock is the one class with the most stringent rules by far.There always seems to be plenty of people that can set back and tell everyone how bad the tech ppl are.Well why don't you go to the head of the line and become an official and tech person? Class RACING needs your expertise now more than ever.It's going to take all involved to keep s/ss alive as we know it.I feel I can say this due to have given 7 yrs. to trying to keep a level and fair playing field.in all classes by enforcing the the rules as written. So the next time you talk with a tech person or race official.why don't you thank them instead of talking trash.They are there out of the love of the sport ,without them there would not be an event.Good luck to all in 2017 and may the win lights be plentiful in your lane.
Jim Woods --- former IHRA tech.

^^ good points.

I know the 4 times I have been through teardown after setting class records I got to see more of what techs go thru.

They have my utmost respect. They have to be familiar with all the different combos ( and it is A LOT ) and constantly changing rules. Plus they have to deal with racers that push things into the "gray area"

Dan Fahey · 04-02-2017, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Woods

I agree with certain suggestions on this subject.The proper training is paramount to the full enforcement of the class rules.I believe there is not a tech man in any sanctioning body that doesn't want to do the best job that they can.Pure stock is the one class with the most stringent rules by far.There always seems to be plenty of people that can set back and tell everyone how bad the tech ppl are.Well why don't you go to the head of the line and become an official and tech person? Class RACING needs your expertise now more than ever.It's going to take all involved to keep s/ss alive as we know it.I feel I can say this due to have given 7 yrs. to trying to keep a level and fair playing field.in all classes by enforcing the the rules as written. So the next time you talk with a tech person or race official.why don't you thank them instead of talking trash.They are there out of the love of the sport ,without them there would not be an event.Good luck to all in 2017 and may the win lights be plentiful in your lane.
Jim Woods --- former IHRA tech.

X2 Jim
As a Soccer Ref..when hear complaining about our Referee Staff.
I mention there are plenty of employment opportunities for those that think they can do a better job!

D

efi v6 · 04-02-2017, 10:32 PM

Mark,
You needed to look at #1 stock oem size wheels - just easier to get a good sticky tire for larger wheels in a drag radial. As far as working good i took a lot of lunch money off of guys with slicks to my drag radials but any way just some thoughts on getting more people involved in class racing. Go to a test and tune or street night i do not know were you are but here in this area New Jersey the lanes are full of late model muscle cars just looking to get involve in something more competitive.
Tony K.

04-01-2017, 03:56 PM	#2
John Kelley Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Tightwad,TEXAS Posts: 911 Likes: 6 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Suggestion for New Pure Stockers Get a REAL tech man and throw them all OUT !!!!

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efi v6 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 34 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Suggestion for New Pure Stockers Meaning what?? Tony K.

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Jim Woods Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: celina, ohio Posts: 623 Likes: 4 Liked 12 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Suggestion for New Pure Stockers I agree with certain suggestions on this subject.The proper training is paramount to the full enforcement of the class rules.I believe there is not a tech man in any sanctioning body that doesn't want to do the best job that they can.Pure stock is the one class with the most stringent rules by far.There always seems to be plenty of people that can set back and tell everyone how bad the tech ppl are.Well why don't you go to the head of the line and become an official and tech person? Class RACING needs your expertise now more than ever.It's going to take all involved to keep s/ss alive as we know it.I feel I can say this due to have given 7 yrs. to trying to keep a level and fair playing field.in all classes by enforcing the the rules as written. So the next time you talk with a tech person or race official.why don't you thank them instead of talking trash.They are there out of the love of the sport ,without them there would not be an event.Good luck to all in 2017 and may the win lights be plentiful in your lane. Jim Woods --- former IHRA tech. __________________ Jim Woods

04-02-2017, 12:38 PM	#7
ALMACK VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Bardstown, KY Posts: 1,937 Likes: 131 Liked 369 Times in 127 Posts	Re: Suggestion for New Pure Stockers I like the sounds of all this, but tech would be the stumbling block. I just wished someone at Ford would supply the cam specs for my 2005 Mustang GT to IHRA so I can run Pure Stock with it. __________________ Alan Mackin Stock 3777/ SS 3377 P/SA & SS/PA Fox Thunderbird I/PS '95 Mustang GT

03-31-2017, 07:26 PM	#1
efi v6 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 34 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Suggestion for New Pure Stockers Dan, Good thoughts 👍 Here are some of my suggestions 1) factory type wheels aftermarket ok but must be oem sizes (no light weight wheels) bogarts etc. 2) DOT Tires -drag radials , et streets etc. No full on slicks 3) stock manifolds or shorty headers only 4) must keep cat. Converters in stock location after market high flow ok 5) aftermarket mufflers ok in stock location factory style full exhaust 6) stock oem electronics and pcm any tune 7) stock oem trans. and torque converter I think thats it for now i was also considering cost along with mods. as far as tech goes maybe they can use tech stickers so they dont have to tech the whole car to save time. Tony K.

04-02-2017, 10:32 PM	#10
efi v6 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 34 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Suggestion for New Pure Stockers Mark, You needed to look at #1 stock oem size wheels - just easier to get a good sticky tire for larger wheels in a drag radial. As far as working good i took a lot of lunch money off of guys with slicks to my drag radials but any way just some thoughts on getting more people involved in class racing. Go to a test and tune or street night i do not know were you are but here in this area New Jersey the lanes are full of late model muscle cars just looking to get involve in something more competitive. Tony K.