Is this a mistake? - Page 6

Joseph Teuton · 04-23-2017, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

I'm sure.
But I don't think you answered Tom's question, so I'll ask my own.
Do your Stockers have an 8 and 3/4 or a Dana center section?

Guys why are y'all beating a dead horse? I believe we all have copies of the rule books. If y'all minds are that needing to know look it up! Look up what rear ends are legal for showroom production cars. Y'all both know the answer to yalls question. I agree that the new cars need their own classes but if NHRA is allowing them to run in stock eliminator and we happen to have cars that fit then why not run them? This goes back to find what combo you want to run and run it. Y'all crack me up with this rear end thing when there are soooo many other issues that need to be addressed. And like Mr. Larry said our car was out ran by an older combination so maybe get off the key boards and get to work. David has already beat Goliath

Tom Moock · 04-23-2017, 01:42 PM

Joseph, I guess NHRA should change the rear end section in the rule book for Drag Pack cars changed over to regular stock.

Joseph Teuton · 04-23-2017, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Moock

Joseph, I guess NHRA should change the rear end section in the rule book for Drag Pack cars changed over to regular stock.

I guess Tom! What's that old saying...Can't please everyone!

Jeff Teuton · 04-23-2017, 02:10 PM

Short Version: This car was vetted to death two years ago in Indy. Including parking a driver next to it. No issues whatsoever. Been running it since. Closed. Now I'm going watch it win Stock Eliminator in Houston I Hope. Any more info needed, try NHRA.

Mark Yacavone · 04-23-2017, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Teuton

Guys why are y'all beating a dead horse? I believe we all have copies of the rule books. If y'all minds are that needing to know look it up! Look up what rear ends are legal for showroom production cars. Y'all both know the answer to yalls question. I agree that the new cars need their own classes but if NHRA is allowing them to run in stock eliminator and we happen to have cars that fit then why not run them? This goes back to find what combo you want to run and run it. Y'all crack me up with this rear end thing when there are soooo many other issues that need to be addressed. And like Mr. Larry said our car was out ran by an older combination so maybe get off the key boards and get to work. David has already beat Goliath

I honestly didn't know that you could use a 9" Ford rear in any make of Stocker, 2008 and newer. Someone just directed me to the rule amendment.
Doesn't surprise me. Nothing does anymore.
I wonder why they chose 2008?. If they went back to 2004, they could have included the GTO, and a few more Corvettes.
Anyone care to speculate?

Mark Yacavone · 04-23-2017, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton

Short Version: This car was vetted to death two years ago in Indy. Including parking a driver next to it. No issues whatsoever. Been running it since. Closed. Now I'm going watch it win Stock Eliminator in Houston I Hope. Any more info needed, try NHRA.

Tell Kevin good luck!

Jim Bailey · 04-23-2017, 02:14 PM

Let's be proactive and include the new Copo Camaros, and Ford Cobra Jets, that will be converted to traditional stockers in the near future!.. Y'all gotta understand this isn't a dead horse, it's a newborne colt, that is about to be let outta of the barn.
I'll bet that Yo Ken and John Shaul haven't forgot nearly / getting thrown out for having the wrong 9" Ford rear end in his Ford and The wrong Mopar Rear end in his Mopar. Just saying...........

Mark Yacavone · 04-23-2017, 02:36 PM

That's right,Jim.
Fair is fair. Right is right..Same rules for everyone.
I get enough politics on Facebook.

ALMACK · 04-23-2017, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

I honestly didn't know that you could use a 9" Ford rear in any make of Stocker, 2008 and newer. Someone just directed me to the rule amendment.
Doesn't surprise me. Nothing does anymore.
I wonder why they chose 2008?. If they went back to 2004, they could have included the GTO, and a few more Corvettes.
Anyone care to speculate?

I had to look for it and read it myself.
Page 10 of the Feb 2017 amendments

http://promod.nhra.com/Userfiles/Fil...s%202-6-17.pdf

Copy:

Swing axle differential may be replaced with conventional housing; 9-inch
housing permitted in 2008 and newer vehicles; stock trailing arms must be
retained, may be beefed up and adapted to housing, must retain transverse
spring. Must install Panhard bar. Frame may be notched for driveshaft clearance.
Distance between OEM backing plates and OEM wheelbase must be
maintained. Coil-over shock or four-link adaptations prohibited. See General Regulations 2:11.

Tom P · 04-23-2017, 11:53 PM

Shouldn't it have to weigh the stock 4300lb + shipping weight minus the amount allowable to any other car? Is a Ford guy allowed to run a 71 Torino Squire wagon 429 SCJ (lighter car than a new Challenger when both are stock!) at 3600lbs too? And the 392 is rated at 485 net HP when in the showroom at dealerships. Most net ratings are increased to be NHRA HP... for example the 302 2V Mavericks and Mustangs II, the 305 Chevy, even 360 Mopars.

Maybe we can petition NHRA to allow the blown Copo / Jet / Paks into SS/A & B to chase the cool old musclecars out of those classes too?

04-23-2017, 01:42 PM	#52
Tom Moock Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 801 Likes: 1 Liked 10 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Is this a mistake? Joseph, I guess NHRA should change the rear end section in the rule book for Drag Pack cars changed over to regular stock. __________________ Tom Moock 5704 STK Last edited by Tom Moock; 04-23-2017 at 01:45 PM. Reason: forgot word book

04-23-2017, 02:10 PM	#54
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts	Re: Is this a mistake? Short Version: This car was vetted to death two years ago in Indy. Including parking a driver next to it. No issues whatsoever. Been running it since. Closed. Now I'm going watch it win Stock Eliminator in Houston I Hope. Any more info needed, try NHRA. __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK

04-23-2017, 02:14 PM	#57
Jim Bailey Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 674 Likes: 15 Liked 584 Times in 94 Posts	Re: Is this a mistake? Let's be proactive and include the new Copo Camaros, and Ford Cobra Jets, that will be converted to traditional stockers in the near future!.. Y'all gotta understand this isn't a dead horse, it's a newborne colt, that is about to be let outta of the barn. I'll bet that Yo Ken and John Shaul haven't forgot nearly / getting thrown out for having the wrong 9" Ford rear end in his Ford and The wrong Mopar Rear end in his Mopar. Just saying...........

04-23-2017, 02:36 PM	#58
Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,821 Likes: 2,912 Liked 5,133 Times in 1,957 Posts	Re: Is this a mistake? That's right,Jim. Fair is fair. Right is right..Same rules for everyone. I get enough politics on Facebook. __________________ "We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for." Will Rogers

04-23-2017, 11:53 PM	#60
Tom P Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 707 Likes: 30 Liked 239 Times in 94 Posts	Re: Is this a mistake? Shouldn't it have to weigh the stock 4300lb + shipping weight minus the amount allowable to any other car? Is a Ford guy allowed to run a 71 Torino Squire wagon 429 SCJ (lighter car than a new Challenger when both are stock!) at 3600lbs too? And the 392 is rated at 485 net HP when in the showroom at dealerships. Most net ratings are increased to be NHRA HP... for example the 302 2V Mavericks and Mustangs II, the 305 Chevy, even 360 Mopars. Maybe we can petition NHRA to allow the blown Copo / Jet / Paks into SS/A & B to chase the cool old musclecars out of those classes too?