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Old 06-13-2017, 02:53 PM   #1
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check out the face book page looks like an air cleaner set up for Fuel Injection not a carb https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater
It has a drop down air cleaner base like many of the cars that run a carburetor.

What you are referring to is the factory inlet portion of the assembly that connects to the remainder of the fuel injection air cleaner assembly.

The fuel injection inlet is not connected to the carburetor, therefore, it does not act like a ram air system. I doubt it has any effect on the performance of the engine since it's not connected directly in any way or form to the carburetor. It's removal will not effect the performance of the car.
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Old 06-13-2017, 03:25 PM   #2
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It has a drop down air cleaner base like many of the cars that run a carburetor.

What you are referring to is the factory inlet portion of the assembly that connects to the remainder of the fuel injection air cleaner assembly.

The fuel injection inlet is not connected to the carburetor, therefore, it does not act like a ram air system. I doubt it has any effect on the performance of the engine since it's not connected directly in any way or form to the carburetor. It's removal will not effect the performance of the car.
I am not the smartest guy out there thats for sure
but if its on that car it is worth something
And since its a carb car I assume that should not be on the car
I guess that may show an issue with no tech at national events
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Old 06-13-2017, 03:29 PM   #3
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It has a drop down air cleaner base like many of the cars that run a carburetor.

What you are referring to is the factory inlet portion of the assembly that connects to the remainder of the fuel injection air cleaner assembly.

The fuel injection inlet is not connected to the carburetor, therefore, it does not act like a ram air system. I doubt it has any effect on the performance of the engine since it's not connected directly in any way or form to the carburetor. It's removal will not effect the performance of the car.
You are correct in your description, however there is a performance increase with that inlet vs no inlet. It directs cooler frontal air towards the carb. I think the car needs to be a Z to utilize that piece.
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Old 06-13-2017, 05:00 PM   #4
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That's the secret 1.20 inlet system, the fast guys have them. must be in West Coast rule book.
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Old 06-13-2017, 05:26 PM   #5
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You are correct in your description, however there is a performance increase with that inlet vs no inlet. It directs cooler frontal air towards the carb. I think the car needs to be a Z to utilize that piece.
I will bet if they remove it, there will not be any performance degradation. The factory FI setup has a restrictive outlet as shown in the picture. In addition, the inlet portion, as shown in the picture, is restricted and even when you remove the panels, the grills are small and are not pointed forward, they are pointed downwards.

If it was so effective, why racers with FI remove the whole assembly and use a straight K&N air filter directly on the throttle body?

The drop down carburetor base is more effective since it distributes the air more efficiently at the carburetor entry.
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Old 06-13-2017, 05:30 PM   #6
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I will bet if they remove it, there will not be any performance degradation.
If it doesn't belong there and it isn't worth anything then why is it there? You're betting with other peoples money.
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Old 06-13-2017, 05:56 PM   #7
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It certainly doesn't appear to have any business there although it is a very ineffective device, even when utilized with the fuel system for which it was designed.

Using pressure barometers as well as other measuring tools, this vehicle has almost 18,000 CFM of airflow being delivered to the front of the engine at highway speeds.

The drop base is a very conventional unit available almost anywhere performance parts are sold. I've tested both the factory fuel injected inlet shown as well as countless bases. The benefit of utilizing the 14" base is not to create an evenly distributed entry profile.

The car is unlikely to realize this plastic component exists. However, rules are established and must be complied with.
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Old 06-13-2017, 06:39 PM   #8
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If it doesn't belong there and it isn't worth anything then why is it there? You're betting with other peoples money.
Ya know Billy, that engine builder from Texas, Allen Sherman ...well Allens father is Cliff Sherman and cliff told me back in the mid 90 s ....and I quote....MJ you gotta put some dumb sh,t parts on your car so all the dumb sh,ts will see it and then rush to put it on their car....monkey see...monkey do......
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Old 06-13-2017, 07:18 PM   #9
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Well M.J., I guess that I'm guilty of some of that stuff myself. But most people don't know what they're looking at when they look at my stuff anyway.
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Old 06-13-2017, 07:40 PM   #10
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Kenny has been around for a long time and with a very shrewd group of Connecticut class racers.
I'm very happy for him, congratulations and good luck.
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