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Old 07-28-2017, 12:47 PM   #1
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We all know why X275 is running at NHRA events, $$$$. Here's where the bitch is. Let's say you want to race at Donald's race and you are set to do so, then he limits the field to not a performance standard but how many of his events you've run in the past, now even though you may be a top performer you can't get in.... then he invites 30 lawn mowers to drag race in your place after you have been supporting since the beginning.

I get the point, but again that isn't what happened for these side show races. NHRA has been limiting fields for a while now and raising grade point requirements. My point is this didn't just come about this past weekend.
At the end of the day NHRA is a business and it has to bring value to its customers, all of them, not just a certain group. Markets change, the demographics change, and in order to maintain a viable business model they have to test the waters.
I find it ironic that guys will worry about a 8 car exhibition series ran on one day of a 4 day event, but only 17 SS and 32 stockers showed up at the Denver national event. If I was that worried about a spot to race, I would be there supporting the series showing NHRA that you will fill the field. Hard to complain about not having a spot to race in when you don't support the spots they give you!
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Old 07-28-2017, 01:18 PM   #2
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I get the point, but again that isn't what happened for these side show races. NHRA has been limiting fields for a while now and raising grade point requirements. My point is this didn't just come about this past weekend.
At the end of the day NHRA is a business and it has to bring value to its customers, all of them, not just a certain group. Markets change, the demographics change, and in order to maintain a viable business model they have to test the waters.
I find it ironic that guys will worry about a 8 car exhibition series ran on one day of a 4 day event, but only 17 SS and 32 stockers showed up at the Denver national event. If I was that worried about a spot to race, I would be there supporting the series showing NHRA that you will fill the field. Hard to complain about not having a spot to race in when you don't support the spots they give you!
Your right the problem didnt just start when this class was brought in, its just a continuance of other filler taking time away from class cars again and again.Try being parked 3/4 mile away from starting line with portajohns, no PA, rule book states car must be driven to the lanes and with foot traffic its nearly impossible to do. Thats why s/ss car count is so low and do not want to race at Denver. Maybe small tire and big tire can be parked in the north 40 at Denver instead of prime spots at Sonoma and drive car to staging and see how it feels being the ugly step child.
As long as it takes for small, big tire class to run 3 rounds of racing and how ever many qualifing passes with 6 crew members helping with burnouts and finding starting line would be the same as another 20 s/ss cars.
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Old 07-28-2017, 11:30 PM   #3
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Just a heads up on the big tire small tire joke.....

NHRA was getting ready to go live on FS-1 for TF & Funny Car, BUT

a small tire car stood it up and slammed it down, BUT

once wasn't enough, he did it again and exploded his oil pan, SO

he went all the way down the track and shut off right in the middle..

The NHRA crew has been working for 30 minutes to clean up his mess...

Pull over and stop...No way..

I wonder how much that oil down will cost??????

Just another dog and pony show..
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Old 07-29-2017, 12:41 AM   #4
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Just a heads up on the big tire small tire joke.....

NHRA was getting ready to go live on FS-1 for TF & Funny Car, BUT

a small tire car stood it up and slammed it down, BUT

once wasn't enough, he did it again and exploded his oil pan, SO

he went all the way down the track and shut off right in the middle..

The NHRA crew has been working for 30 minutes to clean up his mess...

Pull over and stop...No way..

I wonder how much that oil down will cost??????

Just another dog and pony show..
Well now..if that's what the fans want...........
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Old 07-29-2017, 12:58 AM   #5
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Just a heads up on the big tire small tire joke.....

NHRA was getting ready to go live on FS-1 for TF & Funny Car, BUT

a small tire car stood it up and slammed it down, BUT

once wasn't enough, he did it again and exploded his oil pan, SO

he went all the way down the track and shut off right in the middle..

The NHRA crew has been working for 30 minutes to clean up his mess...

Pull over and stop...No way..

I wonder how much that oil down will cost??????

Just another dog and pony show..
Did he get on TV though? That's what's important.
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What is the difference between big tire and small tire?? I know...one is bigger. Lol
In reality is small tire limited in width and height? Example 10.5 by 29?
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Couple things here.
These are not X275 cars !
These are Grudge cars that some are not even NHRA safety legal. No rules other than Tire size. As I suspected after last night's S--t show NHRA learned what these cars are about .
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Even the format they are being presented in is a nod to the TV circus mentality with "pre race "callouts to assert dominance" , note the name of the last of the so called racers .

The field will be comprised of eight of the finest big tire cars and eight small tire cars. The racers will get one time trial on Friday and eliminations will begin on Saturday. Before the first round of competition the racers will do a special call-out to assert their dominance before the start of racing.

The racers in the small tire field will include, George Raygoza, Jermaine Boddie Jr., Billy Hespeler, Scott Ray, Chris Alston
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Couple things here.
These are not X275 cars !
These are Grudge cars that some are not even NHRA safety legal. No rules other than Tire size. As I suspected after last night's S--t show NHRA learned what these cars are about .
Bob,
You have spent much time and energy on your keyboard describing how NHRA has brought in cars and racers that you believe are not deserving of the national event stage. You have made your distaste and anger with NHRA quite evident. Have you ever approached your class rep or DD or someone upstairs in the Glendora management with your pet peeves?? Kindly share their response to your demand of class respect.
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What is the difference between big tire and small tire?? I know...one is bigger. Lol
In reality is small tire limited in width and height? Example 10.5 by 29?
28x10.5 non W is considered a small tire
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