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Old 08-16-2017, 12:05 PM   #51
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NHRA should just put everybody back to factory hp ratings and make a somewhat of a level playing field again . Give the older cars a better chance and then the new cars actually run 1/4 mile instead of 1000 feet ! Then let the system work it out.

Its never going to be fair to run a 69 camaro against a 2017 camaro technology will always be ahead if not Pro stock would be running 9.90's still!

You can take an ls motor throw a cam in it and run .70 under, take a 396 throw a cam in it
and run .70 over lol

I like new and old have had both ! Its all neat just needs to be fair for everyone somehow.
I don't matter. There is no hp penalty at Indy.
Because of this the old cars will Never catch up
Indy is where you should be able to make a NEW ad get hp hit
This Is a problem. But most of you are drunk on the Koolaid
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Old 08-16-2017, 12:27 PM   #52
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So you are saying that all of the pre 2007 HP numbers submitted by the OEM's were right?
Maybe it was all just luck, but a few years ago I dyno'ed a 427/425 that a friend built for a Yenko clone.

He bought 100% original parts, including cam, carb, heads, etc. because for some reason it mattered to him that it was all original.....even though the pistons were knurled, the valves were sunk to China, the block was ridge-reamed, and on and on.

It made 570 HP on a DTS dyno with a set of Hooker street car headers.
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Maybe it was all just luck, but a few years ago I dyno'ed a 427/425 that a friend built for a Yenko clone.

He bought 100% original parts, including cam, carb, heads, etc. because for some reason it mattered to him that it was all original.....even though the pistons were knurled, the valves were sunk to China, the block was ridge-reamed, and on and on.

It made 570 HP on a DTS dyno with a set of Hooker street car headers.
It was rated 425 for the insurance companies. You know that. Heck back in 1969 the factories had no interest in stock eliminator. The COPO 427/425 was actually a towing package........
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Old 08-16-2017, 05:49 PM   #54
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I don't matter. There is no hp penalty at Indy.
Because of this the old cars will Never catch up
Indy is where you should be able to make a NEW ad get hp hit
This Is a problem. But most of you are drunk on the Koolaid


Your right it doesn't matter at Indy . I was talking just in general . Nothing will change anyway.
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Old 08-16-2017, 05:54 PM   #55
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So what car or cars are we talking about here???
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Old 08-16-2017, 10:38 PM   #56
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376/426hp 15 Camaro.
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Old 08-16-2017, 10:45 PM   #57
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Thanks Larry. How many of these cars are going to indy?
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Isn't it the 2015 Camaro 2dr Coupe with the 376/365 horsepower combination? It was 426 horsepower in the 2010 Camaro at 3849 pounds.
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My bad, the engine specs for the 15 engine are better than the 2010 376 / 426 engine. I must have look at the incorrect window while comparing the two engines. 3849# I thought they were in the two ton range, not the 3150# of the 15 Camaro
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My bad, the engine specs for the 15 engine are better than the 2010 376 / 426 engine. I must have look at the incorrect window while comparing the two engines. 3849# I thought they were in the two ton range, not the 3150# of the 15 Camaro
The HP number is in line with the Challenger.

The base weight is 3320. And no, a zero option 1SS doesn't weigh two tons. I would love to know what a stripped Challenger weighs.
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