New A/SA In Minnesota

[Rob Wright]

Originally Posted by Coleydog

Looks like the big three sets at a table, pushes numbers around then hands these bogus numbers to NHRA who the has neither the guts, brains, cares or balls to say BS! Pass it on down to tech and say show me the money.
Mike

Are you saying the AHFS is not effective?

Let's suppose all the factories got together & gave NHRA a billion dollars to allow their 500 HP cars to run with a 100 HP rating.

Would racers with the 100 HP-rated cars get penalized for running too far under the index on average and on the spot if it is really extreme?

I'm still trying to understand why HP ratings are a problem, since they have always been grossly underrated since at least the early to mid-sixties and the NHRA has the AHFS in place to balance out the playing field.

[Coleydog]

Originally Posted by Rob Wright

Are you saying the AHFS is not effective?

Let's suppose all the factories got together & gave NHRA a billion dollars to allow their 500 HP cars to run with a 100 HP rating.

Would racers with the 100 HP-rated cars get penalized for running too far under the index on average and on the spot if it is really extreme?

I'm still trying to understand why HP ratings are a problem, since they have always been grossly underrated since at least the early to mid-sixties and the NHRA has the AHFS in place to balance out the playing field.

Pretty sure after 50 years NHRA know what the early engines are capable of, maybe not so with the new ones yet and the AHFS only works at 1320 ft not 1000.

[Rob Wright]

Originally Posted by Coleydog

Pretty sure after 50 years NHRA know what the early engines are capable of, maybe not so with the new ones yet and the AHFS only works at 1320 ft not 1000.

So if he races to the 1000' mark, does that make him more consistent to his dial-in?

And if he decides to stay in it to the 1320' on his 1000' dial-in, will he win?

I suppose the answer is "yes" if he's running class, but then he stands a chance of getting HP added if he runs too far under his index. Correct?

[Coleydog]

Originally Posted by Rob Wright

So if he races to the 1000' mark, does that make him more consistent to his dial-in?

And if he decides to stay in it to the 1320' on his 1000' dial-in, will he win?

I suppose the answer is "yes" if he's running class, but then he stands a chance of getting HP added if he runs too far under his index. Correct?

Since day one it's called sand bagging, done in every kind of sport and enterprise. IMO when you see someone bury the record they're either not thinkng or trying to drum up business (that engine flies, I want one).
Mike

[Rob Wright]

Originally Posted by Coleydog

Since day one it's called sand bagging, done in every kind of sport and enterprise. IMO when you see someone bury the record they're either not thinkng or trying to drum up business (that engine flies, I want one).
Mike

So you agree then that it really does not impact guys with older cars if a guy with a newer car buries the record & gets HP piled all over himself?

[junior barns]

NEW OR OLD doesn't matter!! If a car goes stupid fast whether it's in really good air or not it should get hit!! Just look at the car that went 9.98 in D/SA! So what will it go at indy, 10.15??

[junior barns]

The car or cars in question should be bad fast !! I'm sure Mr Sherman will make who ever comes, show all they got!!

[countrypuppy4865]

Originally Posted by junior barns

NEW OR OLD doesn't matter!! If a car goes stupid fast whether it's in really good air or not it should get hit!! Just look at the car that went 9.98 in D/SA! So what will it go at indy, 10.15??

I'm not familiar with the track the record was set at, but I would not be surprised to see a .30 swing going to Indy.

[Coleydog]

Originally Posted by Rob Wright

So you agree then that it really does not impact guys with older cars if a guy with a newer car buries the record & gets HP piled all over himself?

i agree with what you're saying, isn't it the engine that gets the hit? Will a 340 AVS engine (like mine) get the same increase as the 340 Thermoquad, like in the D/SA? Hope not.

[Allen Sherman]

Uncle jeff I been on the dyno all day and haven't gotten to enjoy this debate! I got one engine done with a 250hp nitrous jet then I got the one we will call "doomsday" all plumbed up with a 400hp shot in it, we are bringing 3 engines and 5 sets of Pistons just to try to keep up...