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Old 08-21-2017, 07:20 PM   #1
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I love Ihra races. Went to San Antonio this year for the double had a great time. Here's the problem. Too many "I'm to good for IHRA" nhra racers out there. It's nhra or nothing. Whatever......
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Old 08-22-2017, 12:08 AM   #2
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I don't have any specific answer but Stock and SS car counts have always been a little low but solid. They have always had very respectable .90 class counts to make up the difference in my opinion but I have noticed the last several races a steady decline in those as well. The alarm really sounded for me with the Maryland race which is very nice facility and they also had a bad turnout especially in the .90 classes.
Maybe these guys are concentrated on more big moneybracket races, just a thought.
For me it is simple, I like running 1/4 mile races and I don't have the time to run both series so I have opted to spend my time running NHRA. I also like the NHRA nationals so its really just a matter of preference. I had planned to go to Budds Creek, even purchased my membership but had a problem come up and couldn't go. That was several weeks ago and I still haven't received my membership card.
Ed is right there are some out there that will not run IHRA but what has happened to the ones that were? I hope for their sake they figure it out soon because 54 cars will not cut it for long, I see them having a real issue trying to sell a national event program to a track next year right now!
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Old 08-22-2017, 07:45 AM   #3
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I'm unsure of what the answer is either, but I can almost guarantee you the question won't have to be asked for long. IHRA has tried and tried to put a sportsman series out there in multiple configurations and people just refuse to support it with numbers that will make it a sustainable business model.

Excuses are excuses. Scheduling conflicts, 1/8 mile, don't like the points structure, buy backs, the dog ate my membership card, whatever. Yes, they are far from perfect, they do things that annoy me as well, but it is an option, an alternative, its a venue to compete at, but it will not be there with this level of support. And frankly, I think its too late, this was the last crack at putting something out there in hopes of getting a decent car count.

Sure, the old IHRA national events had more excitement, but so did the old NHRA national events. The events in the current IHRA SSNC format, while considered nationals, are obviously more like points meets, but so what. Timothy won Hot Rod Saturday at Empire and got $1500 purse and 9 stickers at $200. It was the same deal at Pittsburgh when each kid won in Stock and Super Stock. $150 to enter, double events, and only 2 days required. How isn't that a good deal.

Again, they are flawed, but so is NHRA. I'm not throwing rocks at anyone, but sometimes we're our own worst enemy. After all the talk, no one supported Beard's race, so not wanting to lose his *** he bailed. IHRA and track operators can't continue to throw good money after bad, and the complete lack of support, for whatever reasons, is going to make NHRA the only game in town other than combos.

Won't be any need for excuses soon...
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Old 08-22-2017, 08:29 AM   #4
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Well said Dan...
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Old 08-22-2017, 02:02 PM   #5
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I agree with Dan, we were at the Empire race this last week end.Were was everyone?? it was two days of racing , well run, and the track and the IHRA staff were great. We need to support the IHRA.
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How many total cars were at Budds Creek?
I hope to make it to the races at Dragway 42.
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I heartily agree with Dan. There's a lot more at stake than just egos and preferences. Stock and Super Stock cars are a very specialized definition of drag race cars. If you want to sustain and even grow the sport and someone gives you a place to race, go there and race and be thankful. You can be erased from the landscape with merely a pencil.
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Old 08-22-2017, 06:12 PM   #8
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How many total cars were at Budds Creek?
I hope to make it to the races at Dragway 42.

Don't know the total numbers, but here is a link for results from each class.


http://dragstory.com/forum/index.php/board,310.0.html
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I'm unsure of what the answer is either, but I can almost guarantee you the question won't have to be asked for long. IHRA has tried and tried to put a sportsman series out there in multiple configurations and people just refuse to support it with numbers that will make it a sustainable business model.

Excuses are excuses. Scheduling conflicts, 1/8 mile, don't like the points structure, buy backs, the dog ate my membership card, whatever. Yes, they are far from perfect, they do things that annoy me as well, but it is an option, an alternative, its a venue to compete at, but it will not be there with this level of support. And frankly, I think its too late, this was the last crack at putting something out there in hopes of getting a decent car count.

Sure, the old IHRA national events had more excitement, but so did the old NHRA national events. The events in the current IHRA SSNC format, while considered nationals, are obviously more like points meets, but so what. Timothy won Hot Rod Saturday at Empire and got $1500 purse and 9 stickers at $200. It was the same deal at Pittsburgh when each kid won in Stock and Super Stock. $150 to enter, double events, and only 2 days required. How isn't that a good deal.

Again, they are flawed, but so is NHRA. I'm not throwing rocks at anyone, but sometimes we're our own worst enemy. After all the talk, no one supported Beard's race, so not wanting to lose his *** he bailed. IHRA and track operators can't continue to throw good money after bad, and the complete lack of support, for whatever reasons, is going to make NHRA the only game in town other than combos.

Won't be any need for excuses soon...

Thank you, Dan. In Root Cause Analysis fashion I believe you sized it up quite well. What a sad state of affairs.
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Default Re: IHRA and Memphis

I also agree with Dan The Man, and Ed Carpenter as well. This brings back my memories of the San Antonio Raceways "Summit Sportsman Spectacular"! A disgruntling 10 Stock entries were there, and grossly upsetting "4" Super Stockers made their way to the race. I'm still bummed over that one, partly because I stunk up the joint with my reaction times in the 1st and officially 2nd rounds. Mostly because I am one of the most low-buck stocker racers in the country, yet I traveled 1000 miles to attend the race, and many closer racers didn't. Shocking.....
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