Personal indexes for s/superstock - Page 3

Ed Wright · 11-10-2017, 11:41 PM

No!

There are actually guys who can not run under these indexes?

SSDA Hemi · 11-11-2017, 07:46 AM

Since It worked so well for comp??

Let's go the other way and run off the national record. You run under, you're the new record holder and come apart. It's a performance based eliminator, some people seem to forget that. Put up or shut up!

And while we're at it the quotas are 65 cars let's, have it a 64 qualified field. 1 car doesn't qualify and you have a 6 round race. no bye runs.

Larry Hill · 11-11-2017, 08:54 AM

64 = 6 rounds

SSDA Hemi · 11-11-2017, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill

64 = 6 rounds

Yes, Saves a round and makes qualifying count for something.

Mark Madison · 11-11-2017, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSDA Hemi

Since It worked so well for comp??

Let's go the other way and run off the national record. You run under, you're the new record holder and come apart. It's a performance based eliminator, some people seem to forget that. Put up or shut up!

And while we're at it the quotas are 65 cars let's, have it a 64 qualified field. 1 car doesn't qualify and you have a 6 round race. no bye runs.

I agree and eliminate the quota system, all are welcome 64 car qualified field. Mark Madison

Ven302 · 11-11-2017, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSDA Hemi

Since It worked so well for comp??

Let's go the other way and run off the national record. You run under, you're the new record holder and come apart. It's a performance based eliminator, some people seem to forget that. Put up or shut up!

And while we're at it the quotas are 65 cars let's, have it a 64 qualified field. 1 car doesn't qualify and you have a 6 round race. no bye runs.

ABSOLUTELY
PERSONAL INDEX=POOR IDEA Right on ERNIE!
If they make it a 64 car qualified field, AHFS would getfixed pretty darn quick, AND they could open the quota up to 80 cars FREE MONEY! Half back if you don't qualify :O and still have a limited amount of rounds ( controllable, profitable and we would all know how fast each other is!) I would still go even if I was only a tenth or two under!

SDT1DYI · 11-11-2017, 06:55 PM

After a long departure from racing and now racing a stocker, it has been an intetesting learning curve.
Class racing has changed a bunch. LOL. Whats stock in a Stocker? Not much I found out! They are more like SS cars. SS cars with hood scopes are more like the old Modified Production or Comp cars.
One thing has not changed, the more money you spend and the harded you work at it, the faster your combination will go. This will never change.

Consider a separate FS eliminator, all 2008 and newer cars. 128 field for Stock/SS combined eliminator, 2007 and older cars.
All non OEM hood scoop cars in to Comp eliminator W/ a new rev limited option class ( to attempt to control costs) and they must be driven up and back.

All of this could reduce the car counts in stock and SS allowing more competitors to enter.
Factory Showdown guys get what they want. The Stocker guys get those 8.0 cars out of the eliminator. The Comp guys get more cars and maybe just save the eliminator. The new class that has some cost controls ( 80K Comp engines costs are a bit over the top). And if the guys with Modified Cobalts etc don't see Comp as an option, put a flat hood on it and race SSGT

Just my perspective as to a way forward.
Would there be more winners than losers?

Steve Teeter. STK H/SA 6380

GUMP · 11-11-2017, 09:13 PM

Why not leave things as they are and just show up and race?

Ed Wright · 11-12-2017, 10:17 AM

These indexes are SO soft, if you have put something together that can't run well under the index, you need to be testing at home figuring out why your so slow. Not expect NHRA to make rule changes to just make you immediately competitive without the work the rest of us have put in our cars. It's not just money. That is et brackets. You can do that at home.

kansas stocker · 11-12-2017, 02:50 PM

" It's not just money. That is et brackets. You can do that at home."

For a lot less money and better pay back.
The index is par and you want to see how far under you can get.
The challenge is the thing.

11-10-2017, 11:41 PM	#21
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Personal indexes for s/superstock No! There are actually guys who can not run under these indexes? __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA Last edited by Ed Wright; 11-11-2017 at 05:51 PM.

11-11-2017, 07:46 AM	#22
SSDA Hemi Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: NJ Posts: 503 Likes: 130 Liked 451 Times in 77 Posts	Re: Personal indexes for s/superstock Since It worked so well for comp?? Let's go the other way and run off the national record. You run under, you're the new record holder and come apart. It's a performance based eliminator, some people seem to forget that. Put up or shut up! And while we're at it the quotas are 65 cars let's, have it a 64 qualified field. 1 car doesn't qualify and you have a 6 round race. no bye runs. Last edited by SSDA Hemi; 11-11-2017 at 10:14 AM.

11-11-2017, 08:54 AM	#23
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,640 Likes: 1,939 Liked 10,714 Times in 2,230 Posts	Re: Personal indexes for s/superstock 64 = 6 rounds __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817

11-11-2017, 06:55 PM	#27
SDT1DYI Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Indianola Washington Posts: 404 Likes: 0 Liked 455 Times in 147 Posts	Re: Personal indexes for s/superstock After a long departure from racing and now racing a stocker, it has been an intetesting learning curve. Class racing has changed a bunch. LOL. Whats stock in a Stocker? Not much I found out! They are more like SS cars. SS cars with hood scopes are more like the old Modified Production or Comp cars. One thing has not changed, the more money you spend and the harded you work at it, the faster your combination will go. This will never change. Consider a separate FS eliminator, all 2008 and newer cars. 128 field for Stock/SS combined eliminator, 2007 and older cars. All non OEM hood scoop cars in to Comp eliminator W/ a new rev limited option class ( to attempt to control costs) and they must be driven up and back. All of this could reduce the car counts in stock and SS allowing more competitors to enter. Factory Showdown guys get what they want. The Stocker guys get those 8.0 cars out of the eliminator. The Comp guys get more cars and maybe just save the eliminator. The new class that has some cost controls ( 80K Comp engines costs are a bit over the top). And if the guys with Modified Cobalts etc don't see Comp as an option, put a flat hood on it and race SSGT Just my perspective as to a way forward. Would there be more winners than losers? Steve Teeter. STK H/SA 6380

11-11-2017, 09:13 PM	#28
GUMP VIP Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Shelby, NC Posts: 1,823 Likes: 2,166 Liked 2,354 Times in 554 Posts	Re: Personal indexes for s/superstock Why not leave things as they are and just show up and race?

11-12-2017, 10:17 AM	#29
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Personal indexes for s/superstock These indexes are SO soft, if you have put something together that can't run well under the index, you need to be testing at home figuring out why your so slow. Not expect NHRA to make rule changes to just make you immediately competitive without the work the rest of us have put in our cars. It's not just money. That is et brackets. You can do that at home. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA Last edited by Ed Wright; 11-12-2017 at 01:41 PM.

11-12-2017, 02:50 PM	#30
kansas stocker Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: kansas Posts: 235 Likes: 501 Liked 249 Times in 48 Posts	Re: Personal indexes for s/superstock " It's not just money. That is et brackets. You can do that at home." For a lot less money and better pay back. The index is par and you want to see how far under you can get. The challenge is the thing.