Crew Help wanted

[Chuck Norton]

If the track's response to yesterday's car count is any indication, you'll be lucky to get two runs in two days. With that in mind, it would be advisable to be there EARLY, be prepared to stay LATE, and expect to stand in agonizingly interminable lines at tech, at credentials, and wait through very slow response to on-track problems. A part of the problem appeared to be problems related to poor car prep with breakage, leakage, and equipment problems. But then, the track response to issues that arose was not swift. I watched one poor soul whose job it was to hand-mop the track surface make multiple trips between the starting line and the 330' cone within the course of an hour. That's not considering the late morning hours during which the track limited the runs to 1/8 mile only due to gusting crosswinds.

As a casual observer, I would compare the day to one that might be experienced by a big-box department store that slashed prices by 50% and then gave half the staff a day off. It's the old problem of trying to stuff ten pounds of mud into a shoebox.

Good luck, see you there.

c

[Bob Mulry]

Originally Posted by Chuck Norton

If the track's response to yesterday's car count is any indication, you'll be lucky to get two runs in two days. With that in mind, it would be advisable to be there EARLY, be prepared to stay LATE, and expect to stand in agonizingly interminable lines at tech, at credentials, and wait through very slow response to on-track problems. A part of the problem appeared to be problems related to poor car prep with breakage, leakage, and equipment problems. But then, the track response to issues that arose was not swift. I watched one poor soul whose job it was to hand-mop the track surface make multiple trips between the starting line and the 330' cone within the course of an hour. That's not considering the late morning hours during which the track limited the runs to 1/8 mile only due to gusting crosswinds.

As a casual observer, I would compare the day to one that might be experienced by a big-box department store that slashed prices by 50% and then gave half the staff a day off. It's the old problem of trying to stuff ten pounds of mud into a shoebox.

Good luck, see you there.

c

Big Boy,

I thought that was the natural order of things?????

Bob

[Chuck Norton]

Originally Posted by Bob Mulry

Big Boy,

I thought that was the natural order of things?????

Bob

You know that and I know that but this fine young man may not know that. Thought it would be a good idea to help out someone who has not had the benefit of 50 years nose-down in this mess.

C

[GrapeApe7575]

Forgive me if I read you wrong, but it sounds like your experience with this venture is limited or at least less than recent. With a car like that, and a track that can be as tricky as Fontana, you would be well served to have somebody with you with a good deal of experience both with the COPOs and faster S/SS cars.....and the Fontana surface and racing conditions. I would suggest you contact Phil and/or Tony Mandella at PMR Race Cars to get acquainted and let them know about your program. There is nobody on the planet with more experience and knowledge that would be helpful to you.

If you are not their customer you might offer a fee for the day. I guarantee you that one day at the track with Phil would equate to many, many days of trial and error even with a helper at your side. I know they will be at Fontana next week as we will be testing our Super Stocker and they will be supervising every aspect of the session. You can reach Phil or Tony at (909) 941-7800.

Once again, please forgive me if I assumed incorrectly but this is good advice for even the most experienced race teams.

[jmcarter]

Originally Posted by GrapeApe7575

Forgive me if I read you wrong, but it sounds like your experience with this venture is limited or at least less than recent. With a car like that, and a track that can be as tricky as Fontana, you would be well served to have somebody with you with a good deal of experience both with the COPOs and faster S/SS cars.....and the Fontana surface and racing conditions. I would suggest you contact Phil and/or Tony Mandella at PMR Race Cars to get acquainted and let them know about your program. There is nobody on the planet with more experience and knowledge that would be helpful to you.

If you are not their customer you might offer a fee for the day. I guarantee you that one day at the track with Phil would equate to many, many days of trial and error even with a helper at your side. I know they will be at Fontana next week as we will be testing our Super Stocker and they will be supervising every aspect of the session. You can reach Phil or Tony at (909) 941-7800.

Once again, please forgive me if I assumed incorrectly but this is good advice for even the most experienced race teams.

Taking a car out with that kind of speed makes this great advice. Can turn a potentially very frustrating experience into one that will pay dividends for the remainder of your racing career.

[MR DERBY CITY]

Originally Posted by GrapeApe7575

Forgive me if I read you wrong, but it sounds like your experience with this venture is limited or at least less than recent. With a car like that, and a track that can be as tricky as Fontana, you would be well served to have somebody with you with a good deal of experience both with the COPOs and faster S/SS cars.....and the Fontana surface and racing conditions. I would suggest you contact Phil and/or Tony Mandella at PMR Race Cars to get acquainted and let them know about your program. There is nobody on the planet with more experience and knowledge that would be helpful to you.

If you are not their customer you might offer a fee for the day. I guarantee you that one day at the track with Phil would equate to many, many days of trial and error even with a helper at your side. I know they will be at Fontana next week as we will be testing our Super Stocker and they will be supervising every aspect of the session. You can reach Phil or Tony at (909) 941-7800.

Once again, please forgive me if I assumed incorrectly but this is good advice for even the most experienced race teams.

X2....Phil can lead you in the RIGHT direction......

[Joe Schweigert]

My two cents if you’re looking for help make it someone you can rely on and has experience Craig’s list is niether. Mark recommended Phil and Tony great choice I raced in the early seventies than came back in the 8 years later a lot changed It was much easier in the past . I assume you’re not going to the Phoenix National SCEDA has a Combo race that weekend good time to jump in the pool As for this past weekend I hope the crew at Fontana learns from it I sat three hours in the lanes it appears they took 12 cars from each lane problem is 1 and 2 and 6 and 7 never had more than 20 cars lanes 3 and 4 were to the 1/8 mile something has changed at Fontana never seen it this bad.

[Joe Schweigert]

Originally Posted by Bob Mulry

Big Boy,

I thought that was the natural order of things?????

Bob

It was this weekend !

[GTX JOHN]

"How will you find where I am at?"

Ask anyone on Stock or SuperStock..........I am not particularly well liked =
But most everyone out West knows me at least a little bit!

[pro stock chuck]

WOW!!
1st off the Chuckster called it spot on. it was bad I think the real answer is to bring in a ice cream truck to change racers attitude. Can't hurt