Gators S/SS Entries

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by James Perrone

Racing national events are a privilege......

Not buying this one for a minute. Take a look at the original charter for NHRA and why it was formed.
This reminds me of the old adage " A driver's license is a privilege , not a right"
(to drive on our own roads)

See my signature line below again v v

[SC363B]

Don, there are other classes effected by the quotas. What if they just allowed 50 more super class cars. We pay the same entry and require a lot less oversight. No tech other than seatbelts, fire suites and helmet, diaper and membership and license. Don’t need anybody working scale no fuel check no making sure the car has the right hood or is in the right class no tear downs don’t need to worry about track prep. We support the manufacturers same as S/SS and and there are way more of use than you.
I’ve seen the idea posted that they allow 70 entries in all the classes and 64 qualify and six don’t make the show. We would probably still need 4 grade points and there would still be people with not enough to enter. Heck if it only took 1 grade point someone would complain they only live a mile from track and should be given preference.

[Paul Wong]

It entertaining that no one remembers when it was NHRA's complete discretion to mail you back a packet of colored entry sheets of what events that you were qualified to enter based on the subjective judgement of someone in administrative offices. You submitted a request list and they decided which entry sheets you received. I get there was no social media but I don't remember all the complaining in the eighties when I got started about this process and it was not based on one objective thing.

Sure seems a lot easier to get a certain amount of grade points and know for sure where you stand. When I asked to get into a couple of races I remember being clearly told National events were a earned privilege to enter.

[MR DERBY CITY]

Originally Posted by SC363

Don, there are other classes effected by the quotas. What if they just allowed 50 more super class cars. We pay the same entry and require a lot less oversight. No tech other than seatbelts, fire suites and helmet, diaper and membership and license. Don’t need anybody working scale no fuel check no making sure the car has the right hood or is in the right class no tear downs don’t need to worry about track prep. We support the manufacturers same as S/SS and and there are way more of use than you.
I’ve seen the idea posted that they allow 70 entries in all the classes and 64 qualify and six don’t make the show. We would probably still need 4 grade points and there would still be people with not enough to enter. Heck if it only took 1 grade point someone would complain they only live a mile from track and should be given preference.

Mr. 363, you bring up a valid point that I have never considered.To increase the car count by ten cars, NHRA would need an additional 60 spots for both stk and SS, sg and sc , and TD and TS if they are competing that weekend...It would be difficult to find the room at Gainesville BUT it could easily be done at Vegas......BTW if anyone ever figures out the NHRA business model, please pass it onto me......

[SC363B]

I have always thought that for ahfs to work you need a bump. If there were more than 64 superclass cars and a bump we would have to try to run .90 instead of just having a time trial. It would be a whole new challenge for the super class racers.
I don’t know why I’m posting my driver has 0 grade points and probably won’t have more than 1 or 2 after next year. After 25 years of chasing NHRA I give up. We have a great track 45 miles from home that runs 10 Q 16 races and we have the Midwest Super Comp Assoc. That runs 13 races with all but one being a weekend double and all are less than 200 miles from home.
Not mad at NHRA still love them just tired. Leave Sat. morning and be home Sat. or Sun. night.

[SS3718]

Without quotas it would take 7 days to complete a race! Even with quotas, the current races get behind schedule which results in Sportsman getting bumped to late at night!

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by SC363

I have always thought that for ahfs to work you need a bump. If there were more than 64 superclass cars and a bump we would have to try to run .90 instead of just having a time trial. It would be a whole new challenge for the super class racers.
I don’t know why I’m posting my driver has 0 grade points and probably won’t have more than 1 or 2 after next year. After 25 years of chasing NHRA I give up. We have a great track 45 miles from home that runs 10 Q 16 races and we have the Midwest Super Comp Assoc. That runs 13 races with all but one being a weekend double and all are less than 200 miles from home.
Not mad at NHRA still love them just tired. Leave Sat. morning and be home Sat. or Sun. night.

Smartest man on these BS postings. Quit NHRA and race local circuits. Save your money ! Just my opinion. BUT.....Maybe if some of you had supported IHRA then NHRA would not be the only circus act in town now. You whined about payouts, contingencies, etc. but no one showed up. How long would your business or company you worked for could stay in business without customers ????? No wonder they had to cut back on $$$$$. True the World Champ was won before about1/2 half of the season was over the way they had it set up but Myron got PAID the full amount in stock. He went to the races. Oh well.....its over and it is what it is. Racing in NHRA would be about as much fun as being in Viet Nam all over again for me.

[Casey Miles]

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY

Mr. 363, you bring up a valid point that I have never considered.To increase the car count by ten cars, NHRA would need an additional 60 spots for both stk and SS, sg and sc , and TD and TS if they are competing that weekend...It would be difficult to find the room at Gainesville BUT it could easily be done at Vegas......BTW if anyone ever figures out the NHRA business model, please pass it onto me......

This is going to open a fire storm! At Gainesville raceway they say that there isn't room for more racers do to space. The Pro's park their race rigs with all their equipment in the pits and their motor homes are parked outside the pit area. To open up space for more sportsman race cars, why doesn't NHRA have the large motor homes drop their trailers in the pits and put the motor homes outside like the pros? NHRA could impose a specified parking size per entry to allow more entries for the race. Just an Idea and observation!

[pmrphil]

Originally Posted by Casey Miles

This is going to open a fire storm! At Gainesville raceway they say that there isn't room for more racers do to space. The Pro's park their race rigs with all their equipment in the pits and their motor homes are parked outside the pit area. To open up space for more sportsman race cars, why doesn't NHRA have the large motor homes drop their trailers in the pits and put the motor homes outside like the pros? NHRA could impose a specified parking size per entry to allow more entries for the race. Just an Idea and observation!

Let's just put your firestorm out. Think, the pro's only use the motorhome for sleeping (very few have young families, when they do they're in the pits) and the sportsmen are mostly families - put them outside? I think not. How about moving some of the "hospitality" ares outside? That'll free up quite a bit of space.

[Ron Ortiz]

SS 3718. That's funny, when I went to the Gators or The Southerns when we had over 100 entries in Stock the races were completed in plenty of time. But with low quotas, they can't get it done. BS. Only weather or oil downs slowed the show. Heck, they even have escorts with sirens to get the pros back to their pit areas to save their precious TV time.

Want to hear a good joke, some race tracks have four lanes and low quotas.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA 32 car fields in the future