Poking the Bear Ford Performance Products

[Albert Lee]

In dealing with Mike for over 25 years, I have never known him to be anything less than a true professional.

Al Corda

[davidhuff]

Originally Posted by Albert Lee

In dealing with Mike for over 25 years, I have never known him to be anything less than a true progessional.

Al Corda

I am sure your friend Mike of 25 years is honest, true professional and hard working.Sure would be great for Mike to take a few minutes of his time to tell his side of the story if he really cares.Just Saying!

[James Perrone]

Interesting thread
From what I’m seeing is the Chevy is all in with the new cars in Nhra
Seems like Ford can’t stand the heat and has cutback
Ford seems to be more into NMCA NMRA programs. Dominated by Fords
By bashing Ford on classracer is gonna do what?Jim?
In the beginning Ford Dominated NHRA you no why?
Because the hp ratings were BOGUS. It was easier But now HP ratings have caught up
Anyone running these cars because of cost are complaining Really?
Factory Shoot Out is what you wanted you got it
Now work harder spend more $$$$ or get a softer combo like you guys had.
Just like I do with my old stocker. It racing nothing Cheap nothing Easy to go fast
Chevrolet All The Way. My preference

[Tom Dolan]

Originally Posted by James Perrone

Interesting thread
From what I’m seeing is the Chevy is all in with the new cars in Nhra
Seems like Ford can’t stand the heat and has cutback
Ford seems to be more into NMCA NMRA programs. Dominated by Fords
By bashing Ford on classracer is gonna do what?Jim?
In the beginning Ford Dominated NHRA you no why?
Because the hp ratings were BOGUS. It was easier But now HP ratings have caught up
Anyone running these cars because of cost are complaining Really?
Factory Shoot Out is what you wanted you got it
Now work harder spend more $$$$ or get a softer combo like you guys had.
Just like I do with my old stocker. It racing nothing Cheap nothing Easy to go fast
Chevrolet All The Way. My preference

I think its is more of the lack of support than working hard. Talking to the cobra jet owners in Charlotte, they told me there is no support for factory showdown cars like the copo's and drag paks are getting from their reps. None of them had any issues with NHRA and the hp ratings, they just want to see ford performance show support like they did in the past for class that was really started by ford.. From what I heard this guy mike has only been to 2 races this season, and at the first race he was balled out by 3 top ford teams for the lack of support.

[fredjohnston]

I hear he’s been at Barton’s getting his Mopar worked on.

To me it sounds like Jim is trying to get superceded parts on cars they never came on. You can run GT SS if that tickles your fancy. I understand you may been promised some things and spent some money only for it to fall through. Sounds like the bogus Mopar deal last year but you don’t see those guys complaining. I’m also sure Ford doesn’t want 2015 and older CJs outrunning 2018s in the Showdown. If that happens, what’s the incentive to buy a new one? They are trying to sell product first and foremost.

Watson’s performance shows the Fords have the pace. Just because some of them spin could be nothing more than car management or MT tires

[Bruce Noland]

Back in the giddy days of Ford's return to drag racing everything was just fabulous for you guys and we, the guys with the old cars, were considered over-the-hill whiners. But, how times have changed. These Ford guys have had the best of it for 8-10 years and rubbing it in all the while. It appears now that Ford has had enough. Mike isn't the guy who makes the decisions - he simply does what he is told by Ford. Do you think he's going to come out here and tell you that Ford doesn't love you guys anymore? Sure they have a run of expensive new cars coming out and I'll bet they don't plan on supporting them either. 68 CJ's doesn't mean jack to Ford's bottom line. Ford executives were using you guys to have a little corpoate fun. And apparently Ford has moved on. You should consider the advice that you gave us - Stop complaining and work on your cars.

[Tom Dolan]

Originally Posted by fredjohnston

I hear he’s been at Barton’s getting his Mopar worked on.

To me it sounds like Jim is trying to get superceded parts on cars they never came on. You can run GT SS if that tickles your fancy. I understand you may been promised some things and spent some money only for it to fall through. Sounds like the bogus Mopar deal last year but you don’t see those guys complaining. I’m also sure Ford doesn’t want 2015 and older CJs outrunning 2018s in the Showdown. If that happens, what’s the incentive to buy a new one? They are trying to sell product first and foremost.

Watson’s performance shows the Fords have the pace. Just because some of them spin could be nothing more than car management or MT tires

Superseded parts? don't think so. He was asking for the 5.4 4.0 blower. A combo that any 2010 and 2012 can run in stock if they wish. With your thinking chevy and mopar should pull their support once the 2020 models come out to make them buy new cars. Why can't they support both. NHRA had no issues with accepting it, and then ford took it away, seems like a slap in the face to racers that have supported ford for decades.

[davidhuff]

Originally Posted by James Perrone

Interesting thread
From what I’m seeing is the Chevy is all in with the new cars in Nhra
Seems like Ford can’t stand the heat and has cutback
Ford seems to be more into NMCA NMRA programs. Dominated by Fords
By bashing Ford on classracer is gonna do what?Jim?
In the beginning Ford Dominated NHRA you no why?
Because the hp ratings were BOGUS. It was easier But now HP ratings have caught up
Anyone running these cars because of cost are complaining Really?
Factory Shoot Out is what you wanted you got it
Now work harder spend more $$$$ or get a softer combo like you guys had.
Just like I do with my old stocker. It racing nothing Cheap nothing Easy to go fast
Chevrolet All The WMy preference

You should be very happy with NHRA Pro Stock then because you can win every time.LOL

[bubski]

Wheres Mike on this one ??? I guess no one realized that to run factory stock you'd have to buy a new car every year !!! cause they won't be able to sell the new ones if your running the previous model year combos !!! Sounds like a great deal for the OEM's !!! Anyway !! you got your own class and now the ugly truth is coming out !!! Like they say spend your money and work on your stuff !!

[Rat Raceway]

Originally Posted by bubski

Wheres Mike on this one ??? I guess no one realized that to run factory stock you'd have to buy a new car every year !!! cause they won't be able to sell the new ones if your running the previous model year combos !!! Sounds like a great deal for the OEM's !!! Anyway !! you got your own class and now the ugly truth is coming out !!! Like they say spend your money and work on your stuff !!

You don’t have to buy a new car every year!!! Matter of fact the changes up the rules and you can now run new combos in the older FS cars. If you do that the car is no longer eligible for the normal eliminator and can only run Shootout.

I have no dog in this fight but I can see why the other manufacturers would want the 4.0L Whipple in the mix with nothing but 2.9 blowers. I would think a guy would want the newest best combo.