DQ at ATCO

[MR DERBY CITY]

Originally Posted by Bucky

I know this isn't work. But when it comes to discipline, it's similar. When we have an employee issue that requires action, particularly when it is someone who isn't liked by someone else, the discipline is mostly kept between the supervisor/manager and the employee. Nobody else is entitled to know what the results were. It never fails...later, someone will say that nothing ever happens to this guy and nothing was done about this time and that. It's like they want every detail about what happened and what was done. And frankly, they want to be in charge of what is done. It simply doesn't, and shouldn't, work that way. Should all of a person's dirty laundry and what happens behind closed doors be public knowledge? I believe in transparency. But there are limits to it.

. I hear ya Bucky, but consider this....As Dan said it’s no ones business, I can respect that but.....Usually a incident like this is spread by word of mouth and gets twisted up after being repeated numerous times and the end result is not even remotely close to what really happened.....Facts are facts and the truth is the truth....I have to commend Thomas for not loosing his cool and adjusting Mr. Millers attitude...Well done young man....

[1320racer]

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY

I have to hand it to D1.......That was one wild points race at ATCO.....the behind the scenes action was intense....

I just read on another forum that a super comp racer was torn down and found to be cheating, anybody know the facts?

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

I just read on another forum that a super comp racer was torn down and found to be cheating, anybody know the facts?

How in the hell do you cheat in S/C, S/G, or S/ST other than using something like a "Matty Box" or a down track stutter box ?

[1320racer]

you answered your own question from what I've been told

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

you answered your own question from what I've been told

OK.....I just thought that knowing how resourceful you racers are that someone had found a new and improved way to cheat ! Other than weight I guess that the matty box and a down track stutter are about the only way to cheat in the super classes. When "Tear down" was mentioned I naturally thought something else was new.

[voltdr]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

I just read on another forum that a super comp racer was torn down and found to be cheating, anybody know the facts?

What forum is that? Do you have a link. I'd like to read that.
Dan

[Lenny5160]

Originally Posted by voltdr

What forum is that? Do you have a link. I'd like to read that.
Dan

There isn't much to read:

word in the pits is that this guy that was claiming the championship early this year, 1 race in was torn down at atco and found to be cheating, using a 3 step on a button to control his rpm. where's the NHRA disciplinary announcement?

http://drr.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/t...186#5677016186

[Robert Pare Racing]

Wow, I just browsed through this..I'm thankful there were no injuries, or even worse, resulting from poor decisions. Speed On.

[voltdr]

Originally Posted by Jared Jordan

Why doesn’t it? Some of us may have to race said racer someday. To boot, NHRA’s description of the incident is vague, at best. So, what did he do that was bad enough that NHRA decides to excuse him for the rest of the year? All that’s been said is he crossed into another competitor’s lane. I’ve both seen and done the same in the shutdown area trying to swing wide for a turn-off, for example. That mean I’m in danger of being DQ’d and suspended?

I don’t think it appropriate to sling dirt, but there’s also no good reason to play hide the ball with facts. Personally not interested in the alleged “threat” after the fact, either.

I guess the "threat" was more than "alleged", if there are witnesses.
Dan

[Dan Fletcher]

Well Ken, I was going to let this go as its really no one's business, but seeing as you decided to offer up the facts in only a slightly less vanilla version than offered on NHRA.com, please allow me to paint a more detailed picture.

Yes, we've been having trouble with the car at idle. Thomas always lights the pre-stage bulb and grabs a chunk so it doesn't take forever to stage. He lit both by mistake. Tex is 2 cars away, not even in the frame. Thomas immediately backs out of the stage bulb. Tex now approaches and dump trucks into both and puts it on the mat. Now is when the idle problem comes into play, as it takes Thomas a minute to get the rpm set (true foot braker, no 2 step). And as he is further from the stage bulb than normal, its takes him a bit longer to get in. Yep, he used up most of the auto start. Repeat, auto start. Can't burn anyone down.

Thomas gets to the strip first and in the shutdown at very high speed Tex swerves in front of him, narrowly missing contact and such that Thomas had to slam on the brakes. Tex then proceeds to weave back in forth in front of him like a pissed off road rager on the freeway.

At this point, Thomas still has no inkling of what the eff just happened or why. Then at the scales and fuel check Tex absolutely looses his friggin' mind. Screaming and MF'ing Thomas, nose in his chest, telling him if he ever does that again he'll put him in the effin' wall. Repeatedly and in front of officials. Physically and verbally abused by a sawed off 70+ year old man and had to stand there and take it because, well, there was really no other option.

As Keno pointed out, initially Thomas tried to apologize, explain what took him most of the auto start to stage, and that if he took too long auto start would have red lighted him. Tex wasn't having any of it, instead just screaming "you double bulbed me and backed out and I don't know nothing about auto start". And for long time D1 competitors, you have to love the irony here, Tex Miller complaining about being burned down, lmfao.

This man went absolutely bat **** crazy for no reason, at least no logical reason. This was Q1 on Friday am at a points meet. He swerved in front of his opponent at nearly 100 mph and then went on a mentally imbalanced tirade. Not someone I want in the lane next to me, and apparently he won't be for a while...