Manual trans only in 83 Mustang?

[ALMACK]

If he is dead set on running an automatic, why not change the front nose piece on his 83 to a 85-86 and run as '86 EFI 302 factored @ 197 hp ?
The hood and interior is the same. Not sure about the tailights tho.

Or....run as 1984 302 /auto CFI efi combo factored @ 195 hp ?

If he wants to run a carbed, automatic 302 Fox body then he's just sol

[Stephen & Horace Johnson]

Originally Posted by ALMACK

If he is dead set on running an automatic, why not change the front nose piece on his 83 to a 85-86 and run as '86 EFI 302 factored @ 197 hp ?
The hood and interior is the same. Not sure about the tailights tho.

Or....run as 1984 302 /auto CFI efi combo factored @ 195 hp ?

If he wants to run a carbed, automatic 302 Fox body then he's just sol

taillights are identical...the hood is not. 83 has a scoop the 84-86 are flat

[ALMACK]

Originally Posted by Stephen & Horace Johnson

taillights are identical...the hood is not. 83 has a scoop the 84-86 are flat

True.
Only the 83 GT had a scoop.
The other V-8 Mustangs in '83 got a flat hood ( GL, GLX, etc. )

[Tim Ellis]

Originally Posted by Stephen & Horace Johnson

taillights are identical...the hood is not. 83 has a scoop the 84-86 are flat

Not to get too far off topic, but I believe the 84 Turbo GT also had the hood scoop

[RPM5595]

Originally Posted by ALMACK

If he is dead set on running an automatic, why not change the front nose piece on his 83 to a 85-86 and run as '86 EFI 302 factored @ 197 hp ?
The hood and interior is the same. Not sure about the tailights tho.

Or....run as 1984 302 /auto CFI efi combo factored @ 195 hp ?

If he wants to run a carbed, automatic 302 Fox body then he's just sol

Thought about the 86 combo but if he is going to run EFI he might as well convert to 87 up like I used to run. Much better engine. I can't imagine the 84 CFI would even be close to usable, would it?
We were talking and he does happen to have a 88 T Bird..........

[ALMACK]

Originally Posted by RPM5595

Thought about the 86 combo but if he is going to run EFI he might as well convert to 87 up like I used to run. Much better engine. I can't imagine the 84 CFI would even be close to usable, would it?
We were talking and he does happen to have a 88 T Bird..........

Years ago I wanted to do the 83 T-Bird 302 CFI deal but it is factored way to high.
The CFI has 2 injectors. Not a problem, just run a couple of 100 ponders.

The problem is the tiny 2 blade throttle body. I never measured but it looks smaller than a 350 cfm carb

[Rory McNeil]

Since it seems this guy "has" to have a V8 and automatic, the obvious thing to do is to convert the nose piece and taillights, and run the car as a 79 302 2 barrel combo. Since NHRA gave the 302 2 barrels a drastic HP reduction a few years ago, there have been more and more showing up, often near the top of the qualifying sheets. The 82 only 302 2 barrel "High Output" Mustang/Capri combo looks pretty good too (Bigger cam and carb), but you have to run "That Scary" manual transmission with that package!
As for the 88 TBird, not sure if the engine combo is much different, but there is a 86 TBird 302 in Div. 7 that has been running for several years .

[RPM5595]

Originally Posted by Rory McNeil

Since it seems this guy "has" to have a V8 and automatic, the obvious thing to do is to convert the nose piece and taillights, and run the car as a 79 302 2 barrel combo. Since NHRA gave the 302 2 barrels a drastic HP reduction a few years ago, there have been more and more showing up, often near the top of the qualifying sheets. The 82 only 302 2 barrel "High Output" Mustang/Capri combo looks pretty good too (Bigger cam and carb), but you have to run "That Scary" manual transmission with that package!
As for the 88 TBird, not sure if the engine combo is much different, but there is a 86 TBird 302 in Div. 7 that has been running for several years .

Rory, it's not that he "has" to have a automatic. I never said anything about the manual trans being "scary"? The price to get into a decent manual trans setup is just too much for him right now compared to using a C4. Wouldn't you rather see some new people coming into Class racing than not just because he can't afford a stick? Believe me, he would love to row the gears. So would I. But in my case, I can't currently swing upwards of 10k for a stick and good clutch for my SS/AS car so it's going to be a automatic. For now.

As for the 2 bbl 302, sounds interesting. The 87 Tbird uses the same 302 HO as the 87-93 Mustangs according to NHRA specs. I'm very familiar with that combination in a Mustang. Even have some parts leftover. just trying to give him the best options available to hopefully get him into a Stocker.

[RPM5595]

Originally Posted by ALMACK

Years ago I wanted to do the 83 T-Bird 302 CFI deal but it is factored way to high.
The CFI has 2 injectors. Not a problem, just run a couple of 100 ponders.

The problem is the tiny 2 blade throttle body. I never measured but it looks smaller than a 350 cfm carb

Yes, the CFI didn't look very good to me.

[RPM5595]

Does anyone run a 87-88 Tbird with the 302? Haven't come across anyone.