End of the year HP averages

Timetraveler · 12-27-2018, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY

Just curious Bill, why should it have been legal all along ? I raced a 283 many moons ago...Thanks..

The Turbo 350 was available from the factory after 1964 and found it's way into a lot of combinations. The factory didn't release all information to NHRA and there are some things that NHRA just accepted.
Can a six cylinder chevy 2 use a four speed stick?

MR DERBY CITY · 12-27-2018, 08:59 PM

I raced a 283 for a few seasons in a wagon similar to Captain Jack. I know either in the late 50 s or early 60 s Chevy had a turboglide but I am not sure it came behind a 283. Every 283 I have seen had a PG behind it ...maybe Billy Nees or Mark Yac can chime in....When Steve Tarrance was kicking Azz with his 6 cylinder Chevy 11 he was running a 4 speed...

jimmyparker · 12-27-2018, 11:13 PM

Turboglides did come in 283 powered cars starting in '57, not sure when they dropped them, maybe '61. A three speed was never factory installed behind a 283 that I remember but some late 50's pickups came with a 283 and the 4 speed hydro, the sedan deliveries were considered trucks so that's how they were able to use the hydros.
350 transmissions were not introduced until 1969, no three speeds for the 64's, the '65 big cars used the turbo 400 for the first time behind the 396. The turbo 400 was used behind small blocks in '68 big cars and some '68 pickups and of course in Vettes for several years. Ironically the '66 Chevelle 396 auto cars were powerglides.
I'm pretty sure Tarrances car was a three speed.

No documentation for backup but the way I remembered it.

mikeloge · 12-28-2018, 01:31 AM

three speed automatic in late 50/60s was sedan deliverys only those panel truck looking things that's the way I remember it hope im not given my age away

GTX JOHN · 12-28-2018, 03:58 AM

Sedan Delivery has 4 Speed Hydro in 50's
All others were Powerglides
Hence the popularity of the Sedan Delivery Wagons.

I am even older than you Mike!

Billy Nees · 12-28-2018, 08:28 AM

I've never seen a 283 car with a 3 speed auto in it, not counting turboglides which were 3 speed autos. The FIRST smallblock car that I ever saw with a 350 turbo in it was/is a 68 Camaro 327/275 bought NEW by a Bracket Racer in N.J. and he STILL has the car.
To my knowledge you couldn't get a 4 speed behind a 6 cyl. in a Chevy II but you COULD in a Camaro. I've owned two.

Jim Cimarolli · 12-28-2018, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GTX JOHN

Sedan Delivery has 4 Speed Hydro in 50's
All others were Powerglides
Hence the popularity of the Sedan Delivery Wagons.

I am even older than you Mike!

Correct me if I am wrong. The sedan delivery did not come with the 4 speed hydro. NHRA declared them to be a light duty truck, and allowed the hydro to be run in them, but the trans came in pickup trucks.

Jack McCarthy · 12-29-2018, 04:16 PM

as far as the turboglide i HAVE ALL THE DOCUMENTATION you need ... was what i was showing to bruce and garcia to get it approved LEGALLY .... which lasted 11 months before they gave three speeds to all the other who DID NOT COME WITH ONE !!! in fact it was the documentaion that endeared me to WAYNE in division 5 !! LOL

end of story ....
captain

i dont wanna discuss the intake

MR DERBY CITY · 12-28-2018, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmyparker

Turboglides did come in 283 powered cars starting in '57, not sure when they dropped them, maybe '61. A three speed was never factory installed behind a 283 that I remember but some late 50's pickups came with a 283 and the 4 speed hydro, the sedan deliveries were considered trucks so that's how they were able to use the hydros.
350 transmissions were not introduced until 1969, no three speeds for the 64's, the '65 big cars used the turbo 400 for the first time behind the 396. The turbo 400 was used behind small blocks in '68 big cars and some '68 pickups and of course in Vettes for several years. Ironically the '66 Chevelle 396 auto cars were powerglides.
I'm pretty sure Tarrances car was a three speed.

No documentation for backup but the way I remembered it.

Wow, if Steve’s car was indeed a 3 speed.....it’s even more impressive.....always remember him rocking in the seat during the gear exchange...

Painter · 12-28-2018, 10:10 AM

I am pretty certain we sold Steve all of our GM three speed stuff (well used) when we went to the Nash 4-1 trans in early 1977.

12-27-2018, 08:59 PM	#2
MR DERBY CITY VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Derby City, USA Posts: 3,636 Likes: 1,083 Liked 7,929 Times in 1,517 Posts	Re: End of the year HP averages I raced a 283 for a few seasons in a wagon similar to Captain Jack. I know either in the late 50 s or early 60 s Chevy had a turboglide but I am not sure it came behind a 283. Every 283 I have seen had a PG behind it ...maybe Billy Nees or Mark Yac can chime in....When Steve Tarrance was kicking Azz with his 6 cylinder Chevy 11 he was running a 4 speed...

12-27-2018, 11:13 PM	#3
jimmyparker Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: columbus, georgia Posts: 385 Likes: 65 Liked 309 Times in 88 Posts	Re: End of the year HP averages Turboglides did come in 283 powered cars starting in '57, not sure when they dropped them, maybe '61. A three speed was never factory installed behind a 283 that I remember but some late 50's pickups came with a 283 and the 4 speed hydro, the sedan deliveries were considered trucks so that's how they were able to use the hydros. 350 transmissions were not introduced until 1969, no three speeds for the 64's, the '65 big cars used the turbo 400 for the first time behind the 396. The turbo 400 was used behind small blocks in '68 big cars and some '68 pickups and of course in Vettes for several years. Ironically the '66 Chevelle 396 auto cars were powerglides. I'm pretty sure Tarrances car was a three speed. No documentation for backup but the way I remembered it.

12-28-2018, 01:31 AM	#4
mikeloge Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 123 Likes: 416 Liked 123 Times in 34 Posts	Re: End of the year HP averages three speed automatic in late 50/60s was sedan deliverys only those panel truck looking things that's the way I remember it hope im not given my age away

12-28-2018, 03:58 AM	#5
GTX JOHN VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Boulder City, Nevada 89005 Posts: 2,732 Likes: 2,798 Liked 2,482 Times in 697 Posts	Re: End of the year HP averages Sedan Delivery has 4 Speed Hydro in 50's All others were Powerglides Hence the popularity of the Sedan Delivery Wagons. I am even older than you Mike! __________________ John Irving 741 Stock 741 Super Stock

12-28-2018, 08:28 AM	#6
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,489 Likes: 3,593 Liked 7,704 Times in 1,734 Posts	Re: End of the year HP averages I've never seen a 283 car with a 3 speed auto in it, not counting turboglides which were 3 speed autos. The FIRST smallblock car that I ever saw with a 350 turbo in it was/is a 68 Camaro 327/275 bought NEW by a Bracket Racer in N.J. and he STILL has the car. To my knowledge you couldn't get a 4 speed behind a 6 cyl. in a Chevy II but you COULD in a Camaro. I've owned two. __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

12-29-2018, 04:16 PM	#8
Jack McCarthy VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: lyndon ky. ... louisville area Posts: 1,322 Likes: 29 Liked 474 Times in 117 Posts	Re: End of the year HP averages as far as the turboglide i HAVE ALL THE DOCUMENTATION you need ... was what i was showing to bruce and garcia to get it approved LEGALLY .... which lasted 11 months before they gave three speeds to all the other who DID NOT COME WITH ONE !!! in fact it was the documentaion that endeared me to WAYNE in division 5 !! LOL end of story .... captain i dont wanna discuss the intake __________________ Jack McCarthy 3609 STK "the Captain"

12-28-2018, 10:10 AM	#10
Painter Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 227 Likes: 4 Liked 162 Times in 45 Posts	Re: End of the year HP averages I am pretty certain we sold Steve all of our GM three speed stuff (well used) when we went to the Nash 4-1 trans in early 1977.