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Old 01-30-2019, 10:40 AM   #1
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Default Re: FS/XX - SS/AH In Comp ?

From a fan's perspective, I don't want to have to sit through Comp to watch the SS/AH cars. On top of that, they give an index that will make them unable to compete - it's not like they don't know what these cars will run...as usual, I don't get what they are doing.
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Old 01-30-2019, 10:54 AM   #2
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This is great news as I have heard of potentially a few cars on the West Coast running the FS/SM class.

Maybe Bucky Hess or others can weigh in on this, as I haven't had a chance to look at the actual weight breaks / rules, but is the AS/SM the exact same rules as SS/AH? Index does seem a little hard if so....

Either way, I applaud NHRA as this may help some of the car counts and again shows the diversity of Comp - mixing some of the highly touted Hemi cars and the new FS cars, with the wide variety of everything else in Comp. Should be fun!

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Old 01-30-2019, 12:00 PM   #3
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Hopefully it will help the car count for Comp at some of the national events. I asked this question to several of my friends that race Comp in D3 last year at Norwalk (addition of FS/XX) and they were in favor of the idea to help out car counts.
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Old 01-30-2019, 12:01 PM   #4
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It is a start, but the index at 8.75 needs to be bumped up, no one has a chance of getting out of the 1st round. Would the FS cars be able to run a bigger tire? At least you could enter the Gators, lots of room left in Comp😁
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I like the idea. The index should be a little higher for each of the classes. Maybe 8.90 for the Hemi cars and 8.60 for the Factory cars. Just an idea.
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The problem I see is NHRA says FSS all rules apply so in comp
9 inch tire
no transbrake
no airshifter
3525 lbs or 3550 depending on brand
and having a second tune for Sunoco when most run VP
every one of those things is making them not competitive with the competition
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Old 01-30-2019, 12:42 PM   #7
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I think it's a positive "start". It addresses a couple issues. Number one - too many classes in Super Stock. Number two - short car counts in Comp. My thought is to continue on, and move other "Modified" classes in Super Stock to Comp to further clean up the SS class, and returning to the more conventional SS Cars. This could also lead to a cleansing in Stock, by making room for the current Super Stock style cars running in Stock to be moved to SS where they belong.....
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I think getting low 9, 8, and now 7 second cars out of stock eliminator is a very big step in the right direction if that's how this plays out.

Running a 150 mph plus car against 90-120 mph cars just isn't safe in my opinion. I can't imagine that guys running those cars are to thrilled having to run a 12 second car sitting on the limiter for 3 or 4 seconds. Seems like a lifetime.

Hemi cars are going to need a weight break with that index. They would all need to be 8.20 cars just to be fifty under, and fifty under doesn't cut it in comp anymore. They're on the ragged edge as it is. I'm not sure they could get to -.70 under unless there was a big weight break and other changes allowed.
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Old 01-30-2019, 01:23 PM   #9
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I think getting low 9, 8, and now 7 second cars out of stock eliminator is a very big step in the right direction if that's how this plays out.

Running a 150 mph plus car against 90-120 mph cars just isn't safe in my opinion. I can't imagine that guys running those cars are to thrilled having to run a 12 second car sitting on the limiter for 3 or 4 seconds. Seems like a lifetime.

Hemi cars are going to need a weight break with that index. They would all need to be 8.20 cars just to be fifty under, and fifty under doesn't cut it in comp anymore. They're on the ragged edge as it is. I'm not sure they could get to -.70 under unless there was a big weight break and other changes allowed.
How about the FSS cars at 8.47 that would be 7.97 faster then any FSS car ever ran last year, does that seem fair? And add in they must run a 9 inch tire and no trans brake or airshifter and 3525 lbs
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I think it's a positive "start". It addresses a couple issues. Number one - too many classes in Super Stock. Number two - short car counts in Comp. My thought is to continue on, and move other "Modified" classes in Super Stock to Comp to further clean up the SS class, and returning to the more conventional SS Cars. This could also lead to a cleansing in Stock, by making room for the current Super Stock style cars running in Stock to be moved to SS where they belong.....
That's a step in the right direction.Maybe bring back some of the old Modified classes. Be nice seeing gassers, lower class M/P cars, etc. When I quit racing Stock in 2010 I had a few 4+ second handicaps F/S cars were in the mid 9's) it really got your attention when they came by you at the stripe at 60 mph.
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