Points and Related Programs

Larry Hill · 02-05-2019, 03:13 PM

See All Star points.

bestephen · 02-05-2019, 03:23 PM

Are you referring to the JEGS ALLSTARS? If so, that race appears to bring the top winners across all divisions and regions to a single event.

I'm trying to understand the rational behind divisional racing and how points awarded outside of ones home division are included in the divisional points calculations. If drivers want to compete outside their division, have more time and resources to travel than maybe there should also be a regional champion for the other classes.

Lenny5160 · 02-05-2019, 04:33 PM

Jeg's All Star points were mentioned because only 'in-division' races count toward that points total.

Your argument may make sense if you live in the center of your division. For me, living in the northeastern section of D5, The two closest NHRA division races for me are in D5. From there, it goes D3, D5 (double race), D3, D5, D3. I could get to every race in D3 and a couple in D4 before I could get to the 6th and final race in my home division.

The way they have it structured is much more friendly to travel (for some) than mandating all races in a single division. Also, if you were to break your car at a bad time and have to miss an in-division race, you have some flexibility to deal with it.

GUMP · 02-05-2019, 04:46 PM

You also need to factor in that the NHRA Divisional schedule doesn't always fit the racers "life schedule".

bestephen · 02-05-2019, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GUMP

You also need to factor in that the NHRA Divisional schedule doesn't always fit the racers "life schedule".

This may be why NHRA lets you choose what division you want to race each year. My understanding is, you don't have to live in the division you race in, you just have to choose one at your first race.

Andys dad · 02-05-2019, 05:02 PM

It seems to me that if I was very lucky enough to have 300 points in the first 4 races - I would sit and save money.

At $1200 to $1500 a race it would save money for next years improvements. No motor home to stay in at the track drives costs up. Plus a non-automotive industry job limits participation.

But I am old and not retired or wealthy like so many are.

Ron

bestephen · 02-05-2019, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Andys dad

It seems to me that if I was very lucky enough to have 300 points in the first 4 races - I would sit and save money.

At $1200 to $1500 a race it would save money for next years improvements. No motor home to stay in at the track drives costs up. Plus a non-automotive industry job limits participation.

But I am old and not retired or wealthy like so many are.

Ron

Based on the NHRA 2019 Rule Book the divisional series was set up for those that wanted to race closer to home. I believe the majority of the racers have typical 7 to 5 jobs, a set amount of vacation time each year, and a budget that has to be balanced between real life and racing.

bestephen · 02-05-2019, 04:52 PM

Thanks for explanation on the JEGS point.

You are correct D5 is tough if you live in WY, ND, SD, MN. NE may not be too bad. do you think weather is a contributing factor for the D5 structure?

Very similar situation for our friends in Canada.

What I noticed is that several of the divisional champions will attend as many as 12 to 16 races. This really increases their odds of racking up some points outside of their division.

Lenny5160 · 02-05-2019, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bestephen

What I noticed is that several of the divisional champions will attend as many as 12 to 16 races. This really increases their odds of racking up some points outside of their division.

A person can go to whatever races they want, but anything past #8 is just for fun. Best 5 of your first 8, with at least 3 being within your 'home' division that you claimed at the first race you attended.

bestephen · 02-05-2019, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny5160

A person can go to whatever races they want, but anything past #8 is just for fun. Best 5 of your first 8, with at least 3 being within your 'home' division that you claimed at the first race you attended.

You are correct. I missed that in the rule book initially. So any combination that includes at least 3 home division events.

02-05-2019, 03:13 PM	#1
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bestephen Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 17 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Points and Related Programs Are you referring to the JEGS ALLSTARS? If so, that race appears to bring the top winners across all divisions and regions to a single event. I'm trying to understand the rational behind divisional racing and how points awarded outside of ones home division are included in the divisional points calculations. If drivers want to compete outside their division, have more time and resources to travel than maybe there should also be a regional champion for the other classes.

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Lenny5160 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Inver Grove Heights, MN Posts: 898 Likes: 604 Liked 431 Times in 224 Posts	Re: Points and Related Programs Jeg's All Star points were mentioned because only 'in-division' races count toward that points total. Your argument may make sense if you live in the center of your division. For me, living in the northeastern section of D5, The two closest NHRA division races for me are in D5. From there, it goes D3, D5 (double race), D3, D5, D3. I could get to every race in D3 and a couple in D4 before I could get to the 6th and final race in my home division. The way they have it structured is much more friendly to travel (for some) than mandating all races in a single division. Also, if you were to break your car at a bad time and have to miss an in-division race, you have some flexibility to deal with it. __________________ S/ST 51 S/C 53

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GUMP VIP Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Shelby, NC Posts: 1,817 Likes: 2,153 Liked 2,336 Times in 549 Posts	Re: Points and Related Programs You also need to factor in that the NHRA Divisional schedule doesn't always fit the racers "life schedule".

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Andys dad VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Arcadia, Ca Posts: 1,571 Likes: 48 Liked 175 Times in 78 Posts	Re: Points and Related Programs It seems to me that if I was very lucky enough to have 300 points in the first 4 races - I would sit and save money. At $1200 to $1500 a race it would save money for next years improvements. No motor home to stay in at the track drives costs up. Plus a non-automotive industry job limits participation. But I am old and not retired or wealthy like so many are. Ron __________________ time is our most precious resource, you can always make more money but you can never make more time spend your time wisely with the ones you love - Ron Durham

02-05-2019, 04:52 PM	#8
bestephen Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 17 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Points and Related Programs Thanks for explanation on the JEGS point. You are correct D5 is tough if you live in WY, ND, SD, MN. NE may not be too bad. do you think weather is a contributing factor for the D5 structure? Very similar situation for our friends in Canada. What I noticed is that several of the divisional champions will attend as many as 12 to 16 races. This really increases their odds of racking up some points outside of their division.