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Old 02-14-2019, 01:33 PM   #1
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I also heard that NHRA hired someone to overlook sportsman racing and that he was walking around at Pomona. I believe the young man's name is Charley or Charles Meyers and was with NHRA in past years and just returned this year.
This is true, Charles Myers, former Stock racer and great guy. He ran GALOT media relations before moving on to work for NHRA.
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Old 02-17-2019, 10:09 AM   #2
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What if the N.H.R.A. allowed Competition, Super Stock and Stock eliminators to compete at selected regional national events including class eliminations and higher payouts?
Just for example Pomona, Gainesville, Maple Grove, Joliet, Ennis, Las Vegas and Indy.
Would that satisfy the needs of these racers who enjoy national events?
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Old 02-17-2019, 10:41 AM   #3
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I’m a bit confounded by some of the attacks here. Ken needs to get out the Ban(g) stick....we are in a community, a kindler gentler version as opposed to YB and FB.
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Old 02-17-2019, 12:24 PM   #4
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Frank, if you added Brainerd, Seattle and Topeka, that would be a good
representation of the country. The Pro Stockers like a reduced schedule,
and the expense that goes with it. Since we are confident that prize money will not increase in comparison to entry fees, let's reduce our
expenses. Division and National Points would be best 5 out of 6
division races, and best 2 out of 3, or 2 out of 4 National events.
That reduces NHRA's cash flow, which I'm not trying to do, but something has to give. My two cents, no change given. J.R.
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Frank, if you added Brainerd, Seattle and Topeka, that would be a good
representation of the country. The Pro Stockers like a reduced schedule,
and the expense that goes with it. Since we are confident that prize money will not increase in comparison to entry fees, let's reduce our
expenses. Division and National Points would be best 5 out of 6
division races, and best 2 out of 3, or 2 out of 4 National events.
That reduces NHRA's cash flow, which I'm not trying to do, but something has to give. My two cents, no change given. J.R.
Your two cents worth is very much appreciated.
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Old 02-18-2019, 08:33 PM   #6
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Bruce,
Thank you for starting this thread,

My 2 cents,

80 Entries to each event in all sportsmen classes except Comp, T/D and T/S.
64 Qualified fields in each category.
S/G, S/St, S/C can qualify on ET, RT, or Package.
Stk, SS qualify off indexes. (Performance)
Extra 20 entries in each might take a extra 30-60 minutes on Thursday or Friday.
5 Classes X20 Entries @ $300 ought to cover cost for extra hour.

Random 2 Teardowns in SS and Stock per race to be drawn from #'s 1-80 by NHRA , U qualify that # you get tore down. (Equal enforcement for all, not just the performance folks, If you've CHOSE to race Stock or SS it is part of the game.)

Run order: STK, (I don't love being first but hey), S/ST, S/C, SS, SG
When S/St not competing move S/C up behind STK.


Gotta couple more ideas but going back to work.......
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Bruce,
Thank you for starting this thread,

My 2 cents,

80 Entries to each event in all sportsmen classes except Comp, T/D and T/S.
64 Qualified fields in each category.
S/G, S/St, S/C can qualify on ET, RT, or Package.
Stk, SS qualify off indexes. (Performance)
Extra 20 entries in each might take a extra 30-60 minutes on Thursday or Friday.
5 Classes X20 Entries @ $300 ought to cover cost for extra hour.

Random 2 Teardowns in SS and Stock per race to be drawn from #'s 1-80 by NHRA , U qualify that # you get tore down. (Equal enforcement for all, not just the performance folks, If you've CHOSE to race Stock or SS it is part of the game.)

Run order: STK, (I don't love being first but hey), S/ST, S/C, SS, SG
When S/St not competing move S/C up behind STK.


Gotta couple more ideas but going back to work.......

And what do you do with the average guy in the middle of the pack who loves racing but seldom if ever wins and his car is not low in the index and has no idea how to tear his motor down and put it back together when he is randomly picked for teardown. How is that fair or right?
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Old 02-18-2019, 09:32 PM   #8
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all this is really about is a few old men who are no longer competitive, that think they are entitled to compete at the national events of their choice despite not supporting the LODRS, putting the work in and accumulating the grade points required to enter that want their voice aka complaints heard and acted upon. Good luck, it ain't going to happen nor should it. The system in place works just fine.

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And what do you do with the average guy in the middle of the pack who loves racing but seldom if ever wins and his car is not low in the index and has no idea how to tear his motor down and put it back together when he is randomly picked for teardown. How is that fair or right?
A racer accepts the possibility of being torn down when he/she enters an event and shows up to race. It applies to every one of us - no matter how rare tear downs are now days. The potential for being torn down is one of the defining characteristics of Stock and Super Stock.
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Bruce you can't be torn down when you haven't raced in 4 of the last 6 seasons.
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