If an advocate could be found - what would you say?

Dan Fletcher · 02-19-2019, 10:12 AM

Not attempting to be self serving, but this one was put directly in front of me this week. If an event is under quota, why in the 'eff does one have to withdraw by Monday at 3pm est? I realize NHRA might have to absorb the cost of a window sticker that goes unused, but it certainly would be nice to have an extra couple days to watch the weather evolve. Enhance me for $10 if you have too, lmfao.

Clearly, one should be able to enter as well, again, if under quota. I realize NHRA might not have time to produce the credentials package one is issued, but I'd like to think we could find a way to work around that overwhelming obstacle.

1320racer · 02-19-2019, 11:06 AM

Dan, I would be interested in your take on the complaints mentioned in this and the other threads and call for a sportsman advocate. If not wanting to state your position here, feel free to PM me, your comments will remain private.

wagonboy · 02-19-2019, 11:20 AM

so if it is about time and space- I think it would be a good idea to let more cars in another class if another does not fill up. Super stock is sometimes light. Why not open S/C or S/G for the amount of cars that another is low.

Same pit space, same track time.

I'm sure there could be a system put in place to do that, and it would be appreciated by racers who are trying to get in.

HR9121 · 02-19-2019, 11:53 AM

Ed I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest some of what I would think would be Dan's concerns. From the point of view from someone that made their living as a professional sportsman racer I would think the fact that he can't earn half of what he did 20 years ago for winning a race would be the top of the list!

1320racer · 02-19-2019, 11:58 AM

With all due respect, I'm only interested in hearing from Dan directly. There are several others who's opinion of NHRA Sportsman Racing I'd be interested in hearing as well. David Rampy for example.

HR9121 · 02-19-2019, 12:07 PM

I have no problem with that Ed I would be interested as well but I bet I'm right lol. For me I'm not on the sky is falling side but there are some things I think could be improved for everyone's benefit.

1320racer · 02-19-2019, 12:34 PM

as I stated in one of these threads, NOTHING is perfect except for my wife

. I'm sure if you polled every NHRA Sportsman Racer in the lanes at every event as to things they'd like to see changed, you'd get 100s of suggestions if not more and the responses would vary depending on the class they compete in. I agree with Dan's comment below, as my son was not allowed to enter the MG National event on Tuesday morning despite 9 withdrawals IIRC due to the weather on Tuesday that didn't show on Monday when he tried to get in.

I'm pretty sure most would like to race for more $ but they don't want to pay more to enter but raise the quotas to accommodate those not willing to put the time, expense and work in at divisional events to accumulate the necessary grade points to run in the Pro's show, I say NO!!

What would I like see changed?...I'd like to see the NHRA lower the index of throttle stop classes by 1 second. A high 8 second dragster was fast in the early 90s but in 2019, almost unheard of and most are killing at least 1 second and many far more in a class that is dominated by 7 second dragsters. Same can be said for SG and S/ST, most there too are killing at least 1 second.

I'm interested in somebody listing their opinion on the improvements that would be beneficial to EVERY NHRA Sportsman Racer.

02-19-2019, 10:12 AM	#1
Dan Fletcher Sponsor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Churchville, NY Posts: 493 Likes: 129 Liked 1,045 Times in 70 Posts	Re: If an advocate could be found - what would you say? Not attempting to be self serving, but this one was put directly in front of me this week. If an event is under quota, why in the 'eff does one have to withdraw by Monday at 3pm est? I realize NHRA might have to absorb the cost of a window sticker that goes unused, but it certainly would be nice to have an extra couple days to watch the weather evolve. Enhance me for $10 if you have too, lmfao. Clearly, one should be able to enter as well, again, if under quota. I realize NHRA might not have time to produce the credentials package one is issued, but I'd like to think we could find a way to work around that overwhelming obstacle. __________________ Dan Fletcher 1781 STK, SS, COMP, SG, SC DAN FLETCHER TRAILER SALES

02-19-2019, 11:06 AM	#2
1320racer VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,628 Likes: 160 Liked 759 Times in 379 Posts	Re: If an advocate could be found - what would you say? Dan, I would be interested in your take on the complaints mentioned in this and the other threads and call for a sportsman advocate. If not wanting to state your position here, feel free to PM me, your comments will remain private.

02-19-2019, 11:20 AM	#3
wagonboy Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 54 Likes: 7 Liked 26 Times in 5 Posts	Re: If an advocate could be found - what would you say? so if it is about time and space- I think it would be a good idea to let more cars in another class if another does not fill up. Super stock is sometimes light. Why not open S/C or S/G for the amount of cars that another is low. Same pit space, same track time. I'm sure there could be a system put in place to do that, and it would be appreciated by racers who are trying to get in.

02-19-2019, 11:53 AM	#4
HR9121 Live Reporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New Bern, NC Posts: 3,467 Likes: 146 Liked 3,363 Times in 731 Posts	Re: If an advocate could be found - what would you say? Ed I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest some of what I would think would be Dan's concerns. From the point of view from someone that made their living as a professional sportsman racer I would think the fact that he can't earn half of what he did 20 years ago for winning a race would be the top of the list! __________________ James Williamson W200 J/SA. SS/JA

02-19-2019, 11:58 AM	#5
1320racer VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,628 Likes: 160 Liked 759 Times in 379 Posts	Re: If an advocate could be found - what would you say? With all due respect, I'm only interested in hearing from Dan directly. There are several others who's opinion of NHRA Sportsman Racing I'd be interested in hearing as well. David Rampy for example.

02-19-2019, 12:07 PM	#6
HR9121 Live Reporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New Bern, NC Posts: 3,467 Likes: 146 Liked 3,363 Times in 731 Posts	Re: If an advocate could be found - what would you say? I have no problem with that Ed I would be interested as well but I bet I'm right lol. For me I'm not on the sky is falling side but there are some things I think could be improved for everyone's benefit. __________________ James Williamson W200 J/SA. SS/JA

02-19-2019, 12:34 PM	#7
1320racer VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,628 Likes: 160 Liked 759 Times in 379 Posts	Re: If an advocate could be found - what would you say? as I stated in one of these threads, NOTHING is perfect except for my wife. I'm sure if you polled every NHRA Sportsman Racer in the lanes at every event as to things they'd like to see changed, you'd get 100s of suggestions if not more and the responses would vary depending on the class they compete in. I agree with Dan's comment below, as my son was not allowed to enter the MG National event on Tuesday morning despite 9 withdrawals IIRC due to the weather on Tuesday that didn't show on Monday when he tried to get in. I'm pretty sure most would like to race for more $ but they don't want to pay more to enter but raise the quotas to accommodate those not willing to put the time, expense and work in at divisional events to accumulate the necessary grade points to run in the Pro's show, I say NO!! What would I like see changed?...I'd like to see the NHRA lower the index of throttle stop classes by 1 second. A high 8 second dragster was fast in the early 90s but in 2019, almost unheard of and most are killing at least 1 second and many far more in a class that is dominated by 7 second dragsters. Same can be said for SG and S/ST, most there too are killing at least 1 second. I'm interested in somebody listing their opinion on the improvements that would be beneficial to EVERY NHRA Sportsman Racer. Last edited by 1320racer; 02-19-2019 at 12:40 PM.