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Old 02-19-2019, 11:58 AM   #1
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Default Re: If an advocate could be found - what would you say?

With all due respect, I'm only interested in hearing from Dan directly. There are several others who's opinion of NHRA Sportsman Racing I'd be interested in hearing as well. David Rampy for example.
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Old 02-19-2019, 12:07 PM   #2
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Default Re: If an advocate could be found - what would you say?

I have no problem with that Ed I would be interested as well but I bet I'm right lol. For me I'm not on the sky is falling side but there are some things I think could be improved for everyone's benefit.
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Old 02-19-2019, 12:34 PM   #3
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as I stated in one of these threads, NOTHING is perfect except for my wife. I'm sure if you polled every NHRA Sportsman Racer in the lanes at every event as to things they'd like to see changed, you'd get 100s of suggestions if not more and the responses would vary depending on the class they compete in. I agree with Dan's comment below, as my son was not allowed to enter the MG National event on Tuesday morning despite 9 withdrawals IIRC due to the weather on Tuesday that didn't show on Monday when he tried to get in.

I'm pretty sure most would like to race for more $ but they don't want to pay more to enter but raise the quotas to accommodate those not willing to put the time, expense and work in at divisional events to accumulate the necessary grade points to run in the Pro's show, I say NO!!

What would I like see changed?...I'd like to see the NHRA lower the index of throttle stop classes by 1 second. A high 8 second dragster was fast in the early 90s but in 2019, almost unheard of and most are killing at least 1 second and many far more in a class that is dominated by 7 second dragsters. Same can be said for SG and S/ST, most there too are killing at least 1 second.

I'm interested in somebody listing their opinion on the improvements that would be beneficial to EVERY NHRA Sportsman Racer.

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Old 02-19-2019, 01:02 PM   #4
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as I stated in one of these threads, NOTHING is perfect except for my wife. I'm sure if you polled every NHRA Sportsman Racer in the lanes at every event as to things they'd like to see changed, you'd get 100s of suggestions if not more and the responses would vary depending on the class they compete in. I agree with Dan's comment below, as my son was not allowed to enter the MG National event on Tuesday morning despite 9 withdrawals IIRC due to the weather on Tuesday that didn't show on Monday when he tried to get in.

I'm pretty sure most would like to race for more $ but they don't want to pay more to enter but raise the quotas to accommodate those not willing to put the time, expense and work in at divisional events to accumulate the necessary grade points to run in the Pro's show, I say NO!!

What would I like see changed?...I'd like to see the NHRA lower the index of throttle stop classes by 1 second. A high 8 second dragster was fast in the early 90s but in 2019, almost unheard of and most are killing at least 1 second and many far more in a class that is dominated by 7 second dragsters. Same can be said for SG and S/ST, most there too are killing at least 1 second.

I'm interested in somebody listing their opinion on the improvements that would be beneficial to EVERY NHRA Sportsman Racer.
Many of us do put in the time and expense to get grade points. We drove over 6000 miles last year to get 5 grade points and probably for nothing as the quota for the Vegas national was filled at 6. Some divisions have less tracks/more geography than others. Reducing the quotas the way they have has been a real deterrent to many racers in the larger geographical areas. I'm self-employed and, except for tax season, have a lot of flexibility in my schedule. My son is an attorney with the Public Defender's office. He races using his vacation time. The more travel days we have the less days he gets to allocate to race. I would like to see the quotas raised again and/or give priority to racers in the division the national event is being held.
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Old 02-19-2019, 01:10 PM   #5
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I'd like to see the NHRA lower the index of throttle stop classes by 1 second. A high 8 second dragster was fast in the early 90s but in 2019, almost unheard of and most are killing at least 1 second and many far more in a class that is dominated by 7 second dragsters. Same can be said for SG and S/ST, most there too are killing at least 1 second.

I'm interested in somebody listing their opinion on the improvements that would be beneficial to EVERY NHRA Sportsman Racer.
Not that I've agreed with everything else you have said, but I definitely do not agree with this. That is just needlessly pushing out the racers, however few they are, that can't run 1 second quicker than the current indexes.

I can't think of a single benefit from doing it. It wouldn't be any more fun for me in the cockpit to go 7.90, and spectators aren't a concern nor would they be able to tell the difference.

I definitely don't go NHRA racing for the money, but a round 5 semi-final loss at a LODRS race not breaking even on the entry fee is pretty ridiculous. There's a balance somewhere.

I actually kind of like the idea of having to qualify for your spot on the ladder in the Super classes. That would be fun! (Until I failed to qualify, of course)
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Old 02-19-2019, 02:29 PM   #6
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So Far............................................... ..........

ONE and ONLY one person has contact me to communicate
with the NHRA Sportsman Racing Manager (Charles Myers)
about any of these issues!


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Old 02-19-2019, 02:38 PM   #7
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So Far............................................... ..........

ONE and ONLY one person has contact me to communicate
with the NHRA Sportsman Racing Manager (Charles Myers)
about any of these issues!


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I'm not surprised at all. Talking to nhra employees has not provided much in the way of results.
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After looking at some of the replies here.... I believe the Chuck Rayburn rule applies..
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Charles is my friend and I can vouch for his sincerity.......
He WILL do whatever he is able to accomplish for Sportsman
(be it large or small).

Exactly what can it hurt to let him know our feelings and wishes?

OR

Perhaps I have missed the point of the intended original purpose
of this thread in the first place.........Maybe it is just a p*ssing at the
Moon contest!


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Old 02-20-2019, 10:01 AM   #10
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I'm not surprised at all. Talking to nhra employees has not provided much in the way of results.
I hate to be a pessimist (realist), but I'm afraid this is how it is. The Company makes decisions, based on it's own idea of what's in it's best interests, secure in the belief that it knows better than anyone. Any solicitation of opinions is just lip service.

When the top pro stars of the sport get ignored when they have a concern or suggestion, why would anyone reading this expect that anything they have to say matters.
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