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Old 07-26-2019, 09:13 AM   #1
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So I always hear how flawed the system is and we all know it is but the one time the AHFS would actually work nobody wants it to count. This is the race where all the fastest cars in the country will be at but let's not count it. The way I see it this would be the ultimate playing field to see how bad does someone want that Indy class trophy. I understand everyone wants to show how fast they are but for the most part everyone that races and looks at incremental times already knows who's fast to start with. This is the one race that the current system would work but nobody wants to use it because it's the one race where the vast majority of cars there need some correction.
Ed not trying to hurt your feelings but I doubt anyone from NHRA asked anyone anything about your proposal. I think it got filed in the trash because I don't know a soul that was asked their opinion. I liked it by the way!
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Old 07-26-2019, 10:36 AM   #2
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So I always hear how flawed the system is and we all know it is but the one time the AHFS would actually work nobody wants it to count. This is the race where all the fastest cars in the country will be at but let's not count it. The way I see it this would be the ultimate playing field to see how bad does someone want that Indy class trophy. I understand everyone wants to show how fast they are but for the most part everyone that races and looks at incremental times already knows who's fast to start with. This is the one race that the current system would work but nobody wants to use it because it's the one race where the vast majority of cars there need some correction.
Ed not trying to hurt your feelings but I doubt anyone from NHRA asked anyone anything about your proposal. I think it got filed in the trash because I don't know a soul that was asked their opinion. I liked it by the way!
I have to disagree with you about the fastest cars, It's cars that have had HP, as much as 40 taken off their original factory rated HP, to bomb in the lower classes. I would agree that there are some people and combo's that have worked their tail's off to make their combo's fast. Lifters alone make a difference, the hydraulic lifters that came from the factory are now allowed solids with no HP added to the combo where as almost every solid lifter engine out of the factory are still carrying HP and then some. I've already heard it, that the solid lifters didn't help any combo, put OEM lifters back in the engines then we'll see if they helped!

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Old 07-26-2019, 10:52 AM   #3
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So I always hear how flawed the system is and we all know it is but the one time the AHFS would actually work nobody wants it to count. This is the race where all the fastest cars in the country will be at but let's not count it. The way I see it this would be the ultimate playing field to see how bad does someone want that Indy class trophy. I understand everyone wants to show how fast they are but for the most part everyone that races and looks at incremental times already knows who's fast to start with. This is the one race that the current system would work but nobody wants to use it because it's the one race where the vast majority of cars there need some correction.
Ed not trying to hurt your feelings but I doubt anyone from NHRA asked anyone anything about your proposal. I think it got filed in the trash because I don't know a soul that was asked their opinion. I liked it by the way!
Well said Cooter. You speak the TRUTH.
I don’t get it either.....
I have raced Indy when the 120 hit counted and when it didn’t
And we get what we have now..MULliGANs for the fastest under rated combos on earth!
And congrats to the 2 barrel..6 cylinder ..front wheel drive JUNK..Yes I said It!
#1 qualified car What a joke.
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I was lucky enough to Qualify #1 at Indy in 2008, and took HP for it. Would I do it again? Hell yes I would. But these days without the AHFS only the crazy soft combo's even have a remote chance. Does it affect the qualified field? No, but come on now 2 seconds under? That combo needs Hp added to it.
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So James and Cooter Lets say you get your cars flying and all the stars line up right for you at Indy. On blow up mode you can go 1:21 under for class win. And if the AHFS is in place are you really going to do it just for a class trophy. Really, not me and not very many others. Lets take a look at the 2015 COPO"s that run A/SA and B/SA. These cars in decent air can go 1:40 plus under. If the system works why haven't they got hit at the other 21 National Events. You think anyone would want to ruin their combo for a class trophy and a trip to the barn. BP
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I've spent a ton of money this year Mr Parker and I'm pretty sure I can't get to 1.20 under at Indy in August but if someone is running that fast in those conditions, some with ease I say they need HP. Just like the new cars running in the regular classes this is probably the only race that would help get those cars the hp they need if they want the trophy bad enough.
To answer your question though, with apologies to everyone running my combo, yes I would if that's what it took to win class at Indy I would.
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Lets take a look at the 2015 COPO"s that run A/SA and B/SA. These cars in decent air can go 1:40 plus under.
Technically not COPOs ,but we know the story on most of them.
NHRA wants new cars..Simple as that. They were supposed to go in as natural B cars, but the fine folks at No Hot Rods Allowed graciously put them in C.

Fortunately, there are several of them now, and they'll get theirs at other venues.
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So James and Cooter Lets say you get your cars flying and all the stars line up right for you at Indy. On blow up mode you can go 1:21 under for class win. And if the AHFS is in place are you really going to do it just for a class trophy. Really, not me and not very many others. Lets take a look at the 2015 COPO"s that run A/SA and B/SA. These cars in decent air can go 1:40 plus under. If the system works why haven't they got hit at the other 21 National Events. You think anyone would want to ruin their combo for a class trophy and a trip to the barn. BP
Barry they don’t run class enough and with 55 car fields there not enough competition.
Now if you ran CLASS at divisionals..you would see AHFS work..
The Baby Gator was great. And I don’t want to here about I ain’t going for class cause there’s no money $$$.
Now Barry when I met you all you wanted to do was be the fastest in your class Now with you decided to stay in control of your combo. Sissy boy.
Indy is a lot of fun but with no hamburger for me ..that’s it I ain’t going
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Barry they don’t run class enough and with 55 car fields there not enough competition.
Now if you ran CLASS at divisionals..you would see AHFS work..
The Baby Gator was great. And I don’t want to here about I ain’t going for class cause there’s no money $$$.
Now Barry when I met you all you wanted to do was be the fastest in your class Now with you decided to stay in control of your combo. Sissy boy.
Indy is a lot of fun but with no hamburger for me ..that’s it I ain’t going
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If i go, do i get a burger ?
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