Indy quota increase

TD3506 · 08-08-2019, 10:38 AM

"The only issue that I see with that is that racers who made the effort to get grade points can then get knocked out by someone with a fast car that didn't."

EXACTLY!

We have all known it was 160 since the season started... you wanna run The Go... then load your stuff up 4-5 times the other 51 weeks out of the year and Go to the track.

There are racers who took the time, energy, and $ to run enough points races to be able to enter. Many thought long and hard before parting with their $380 to enter The Go knowing they would be competing with 160 (plus past World Champions) for 128 spots. To raise the quota at this point does nothing but reward those who stayed home.

I honestly cant believe the number of folks who think the rules should be altered for them (and the... cause they did it in the past reasoning is BS)... ya sound like a bunch of high school kids who didn't show up for practice all week but think they deserve to play Friday night cause they can run fast or jump high.

Troy Galbraith
#3506
317-258-5641

Whalen3186 · 08-08-2019, 11:15 AM

In 2018 there was 120 in SC and 116 in SG. Based on car counts at other nationals and divisionals this year there is no reason to think 2019 will be much different. The x.90 racers know there is still plenty of time to enter and likely keeping their entry money until the race gets a little bit closer.

SC & SG for Gateway both filled at 7 gp's or right after 6 opened last week so there is demand for those classes.

No one on this board has mentioned the Comp (a class most of us agree is great) entry count for Indy is currently at 7! You're crazy if you think there will only be 7 Comp cars in the lanes when the first qualifier rolls around.

Carguy49 · 08-08-2019, 11:21 AM

I think the quota should stay where it is. The classes that aren't full yet will fill, I believe. Some wait until their personal plans are known before they enter. This could be due to work schedule or whatever other reasons they might have..

Some racers might have this race on their bucket list, so everything has to fall in place to be able to do it.

Mark Yacavone · 08-08-2019, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TD3506

"The only issue that I see with that is that racers who made the effort to get grade points can then get knocked out by someone with a fast car that didn't."

EXACTLY!

We have all known it was 160 since the season started... you wanna run The Go... then load your stuff up 4-5 times the other 51 weeks out of the year and Go to the track.

There are racers who took the time, energy, and $ to run enough points races to be able to enter. Many thought long and hard before parting with their $380 to enter The Go knowing they would be competing with 160 (plus past World Champions) for 128 spots. To raise the quota at this point does nothing but reward those who stayed home.

I honestly cant believe the number of folks who think the rules should be altered for them (and the... cause they did it in the past reasoning is BS)... ya sound like a bunch of high school kids who didn't show up for practice all week but think they deserve to play Friday night cause they can run fast or jump high.

Troy Galbraith
#3506
317-258-5641

What was wrong with the 180 number they had for several years?
You sound like you might be offended that racers with 1-2 gp's might get in . ;-)

james schaechter · 08-08-2019, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

What was wrong with the 180 number they had for several years?
You sound like you might be offended that racers with 1-2 gp's might get in . ;-)

Answer? Nothing.
Only three potential reasons why they lowered Stock and Superstock.
1) they are just bad at forecasting or didn’t care
2) they secretly enticed dozens of SG and SC racers to come this year
3) they wanted a lower car count than plan so they could justify future enhancements

Indy is just one of those races that you throw everything at it. It is either enough...or it is not...

Ralph A Powell · 08-08-2019, 12:53 PM

Room to park when wet?

Lyn Smith · 08-08-2019, 01:22 PM

Top Dragster is already 7 over the limit,and could go higher. Their rigs take up a lot of room. Leave Stock /SS at 160. NHRA is forcing you to get more Grading Points so they can pay the Division directors,tech people, on down. It is not going to get any better. So start your plans today to get your grading points for next year when they lower the quotas at National events even more.

Andrew Hill · 08-08-2019, 01:50 PM

There are 6 sportsman categories with quotas, here's the breakdown of entries between this year and last, up to this point.

Class 2018 2019
SS 172 162
Stock 171 163
SC 120 73
SG 116 78
TS 0 36
TD 0 43

Total 579 555

So there's only 24 fewer cars than 2018 entered right now, with a ton of spots left in SG/SC. If Stock and SS are anything to go by, lots of people are waiting until they have to to enter in those classes.

I would expect more cars in total this year than last by the time Indy gets here. Obviously this doesn't include Comp/FSS since those don't have quotas and people generally wait until the very last minute since they can, but it seems like car counts are up in general this year in both of those compared to last as well.

It's a bummer for the people who didn't get entered, but I'd be surprised if there were any spots added in Stock/SS.

SSHemi364 · 08-08-2019, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TD3506

"The only issue that I see with that is that racers who made the effort to get grade points can then get knocked out by someone with a fast car that didn't."

EXACTLY!

We have all known it was 160 since the season started... you wanna run The Go... then load your stuff up 4-5 times the other 51 weeks out of the year and Go to the track.

There are racers who took the time, energy, and $ to run enough points races to be able to enter. Many thought long and hard before parting with their $380 to enter The Go knowing they would be competing with 160 (plus past World Champions) for 128 spots. To raise the quota at this point does nothing but reward those who stayed home.

I honestly cant believe the number of folks who think the rules should be altered for them (and the... cause they did it in the past reasoning is BS)... ya sound like a bunch of high school kids who didn't show up for practice all week but think they deserve to play Friday night cause they can run fast or jump high.

Troy Galbraith
#3506
317-258-5641

BS Mr. you cant presume to know everyone's situation. Oh, by the way, from your other "quote", I guess I missed the schedule with 51 divisional races.

Whalen3186 · 08-08-2019, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SSHemi364

BS Mr. you cant presume to know everyone's situation. Oh, by the way, from your other "quote", I guess I missed the schedule with 51 divisional races.

Nobody said 51 LODRS races. There’s 44 this year, throw in the National opens and Sportsnationals and you’ve got over 70 opportunities to earn grade points.

08-08-2019, 10:38 AM	#1
TD3506 Junior Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 20 Likes: 0 Liked 35 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Indy quota increase "The only issue that I see with that is that racers who made the effort to get grade points can then get knocked out by someone with a fast car that didn't." EXACTLY! We have all known it was 160 since the season started... you wanna run The Go... then load your stuff up 4-5 times the other 51 weeks out of the year and Go to the track. There are racers who took the time, energy, and $ to run enough points races to be able to enter. Many thought long and hard before parting with their $380 to enter The Go knowing they would be competing with 160 (plus past World Champions) for 128 spots. To raise the quota at this point does nothing but reward those who stayed home. I honestly cant believe the number of folks who think the rules should be altered for them (and the... cause they did it in the past reasoning is BS)... ya sound like a bunch of high school kids who didn't show up for practice all week but think they deserve to play Friday night cause they can run fast or jump high. Troy Galbraith #3506 317-258-5641

08-08-2019, 11:15 AM	#2
Whalen3186 Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 242 Likes: 20 Liked 109 Times in 32 Posts	Re: Indy quota increase In 2018 there was 120 in SC and 116 in SG. Based on car counts at other nationals and divisionals this year there is no reason to think 2019 will be much different. The x.90 racers know there is still plenty of time to enter and likely keeping their entry money until the race gets a little bit closer. SC & SG for Gateway both filled at 7 gp's or right after 6 opened last week so there is demand for those classes. No one on this board has mentioned the Comp (a class most of us agree is great) entry count for Indy is currently at 7! You're crazy if you think there will only be 7 Comp cars in the lanes when the first qualifier rolls around. __________________ Drew Whalen Stk 3186

08-08-2019, 12:53 PM	#6
Ralph A Powell Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Bay City Texas Posts: 389 Likes: 2 Liked 225 Times in 136 Posts	Re: Indy quota increase Room to park when wet?

08-08-2019, 01:22 PM	#7
Lyn Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Pontiac,il. Posts: 1,204 Likes: 286 Liked 980 Times in 197 Posts	Re: Indy quota increase Top Dragster is already 7 over the limit,and could go higher. Their rigs take up a lot of room. Leave Stock /SS at 160. NHRA is forcing you to get more Grading Points so they can pay the Division directors,tech people, on down. It is not going to get any better. So start your plans today to get your grading points for next year when they lower the quotas at National events even more.

08-08-2019, 01:50 PM	#8
Andrew Hill Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 701 Likes: 446 Liked 174 Times in 39 Posts	Re: Indy quota increase There are 6 sportsman categories with quotas, here's the breakdown of entries between this year and last, up to this point. Class 2018 2019 SS 172 162 Stock 171 163 SC 120 73 SG 116 78 TS 0 36 TD 0 43 Total 579 555 So there's only 24 fewer cars than 2018 entered right now, with a ton of spots left in SG/SC. If Stock and SS are anything to go by, lots of people are waiting until they have to to enter in those classes. I would expect more cars in total this year than last by the time Indy gets here. Obviously this doesn't include Comp/FSS since those don't have quotas and people generally wait until the very last minute since they can, but it seems like car counts are up in general this year in both of those compared to last as well. It's a bummer for the people who didn't get entered, but I'd be surprised if there were any spots added in Stock/SS. __________________ 3207 D/SA, C/ED

08-08-2019, 11:21 AM	#3
Carguy49 VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Fife, Washington Posts: 1,979 Likes: 2,475 Liked 2,951 Times in 709 Posts	Re: Indy quota increase I think the quota should stay where it is. The classes that aren't full yet will fill, I believe. Some wait until their personal plans are known before they enter. This could be due to work schedule or whatever other reasons they might have.. Some racers might have this race on their bucket list, so everything has to fall in place to be able to do it. __________________ Ron McDowell - Did Race Every day is a Gift - Enjoy with family and friends. Last edited by Carguy49; 08-08-2019 at 11:24 AM.