Attention Nova 350/255 stock combo.

Dan Fahey · 09-15-2019, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

They haven't policed this since around 1985 !

They have to be.
How are cars passing tech now?

Rich Biebel · 09-15-2019, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan Fahey

They have to be.
How are cars passing tech now?

What Tech ? LOL

Frank Castros · 09-15-2019, 09:29 AM

I'm still trying to get head around spending the big money and the working your butt off to run with the crowd only to race to the 1000 foot stripe. ???
The old rule book is never coming back so only thing to do are first fix the AHFS (with the help of the CR Consulting Group, LOL!) and then methodically policing the bogus stuff.

Larry Hill · 09-15-2019, 10:24 AM

I think I have over $1000 in finding my six pack intake. I purchased all of the old aluminum intakes I could find and two new ones. Then we ran them on the dyno with eight EGT's in the headers. We would change jetting in an attempt to bring EGT's together. I had them numbered 1 - 6 with what I thought would make the best power. This will show you how much I know. One and six were duds and number five was the magic number. Then we backed to backed the best two at the track and number five is still the best. Mid-way through the first pull on the dyno with number five I knew I had a boy dog.

Mark Yacavone · 09-15-2019, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan Fahey

They have to be.
How are cars passing tech now?

Dan, The rule says (I'm paraphrasing) No welding, grind marks, file marks, etc.
Must pour at or under the listed port volume.
That is their official "out"
What does that mean to you?
What that means to me, is good flowing "Stock" cylinder heads became very expensive with that wording.
But then , it goes with all the other NHRA expenses. Nobody seems to mind .They're fighting to get into Nationals.
As my friend Barry says." People don't want to go back, so there ya go...

X-TECH MAN · 09-15-2019, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan Fahey

They have to be.
How are cars passing tech now?

NHRA got rid of the smart and good tech officials. I had hoped Wesley would have made a difference but no not at Indy 2019 ! Cost to much in NHRA's eyes. But I can say I have been around this poop as an official since 1971 or so and it started sometime before 1985. I won't mention names but I have seen it and its gotten worse. I know of one 428 CJ intake manifold that weighs 10 lbs less than a stock one. Its one reason I quit working and I only race bracket races myself close to home and BS on this site as long as Ken will let me. Its not worth it to race stock today to me plus the contingencies are way less than the early 1970's . You guys are just filler for the Fuel idiots and monkey shows. It would be less expensive if everyone stood in a line and pulled their pants down to see who has the biggest you know what. Todays rules for stock are just plain stupid but enjoy. The old days will not return. I would guess the stockers will become Super Stockers some time in the future.

Rich Biebel · 09-15-2019, 11:45 AM

I just returned from the Maple Grove Nat'ls yesterday. I was entered and raced....

As it has been for a few years, there was NO tech before we ran and I saw NO spot checks in the lanes. Nothing....

I also saw no fuel and weight check for Stock and SS but I may have missed that if they did it.

One Stocker did have to pull a head and it was for going more than 1.2 under....he passed and gets HP.....

At Division races they always inspect cars before you get to race but its generally a routine lookover and check of safety items.

rboyle · 09-15-2019, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

I just returned from the Maple Grove Nat'ls yesterday. I was entered and raced....

As it has been for a few years, there was NO tech before we ran and I saw NO spot checks in the lanes. Nothing....

I also saw no fuel and weight check for Stock and SS but I may have missed that if they did it.

One Stocker did have to pull a head and it was for going more than 1.2 under....he passed and gets HP.....

At Division races they always inspect cars before you get to race but its generally a routine lookover and check of safety items.

They did weight after every run and fuel every other run. They pulled about 6 Comp cars for random checks of various tech items and the tech official was watching at every fuel check for anything odd.
Overall I'd say they amped up the tech routine

rick winchester · 09-15-2019, 02:57 PM

If you have 20k stocker heads and 2k intake you have to much money ……..might need your head checked. Rick.

partsbob67 · 09-15-2019, 04:38 PM

so instead of lowering the indexes again , why not make the hit number 1.40 or 1.50. then every one can race as they please. oh yeah, and lock the rules in for 5 years.no enhancements etc..

09-15-2019, 09:29 AM	#3
Frank Castros VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Lowcountry. Posts: 2,988 Likes: 2,623 Liked 2,741 Times in 967 Posts	Re: Attention Nova 350/255 stock combo. I'm still trying to get head around spending the big money and the working your butt off to run with the crowd only to race to the 1000 foot stripe. ??? The old rule book is never coming back so only thing to do are first fix the AHFS (with the help of the CR Consulting Group, LOL!) and then methodically policing the bogus stuff.

09-15-2019, 10:24 AM	#4
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,663 Likes: 1,954 Liked 10,829 Times in 2,251 Posts	Re: Attention Nova 350/255 stock combo. I think I have over $1000 in finding my six pack intake. I purchased all of the old aluminum intakes I could find and two new ones. Then we ran them on the dyno with eight EGT's in the headers. We would change jetting in an attempt to bring EGT's together. I had them numbered 1 - 6 with what I thought would make the best power. This will show you how much I know. One and six were duds and number five was the magic number. Then we backed to backed the best two at the track and number five is still the best. Mid-way through the first pull on the dyno with number five I knew I had a boy dog. __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817

09-15-2019, 11:45 AM	#7
Rich Biebel VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern New Jersey suburbs Posts: 2,315 Likes: 25 Liked 544 Times in 213 Posts	Re: Attention Nova 350/255 stock combo. I just returned from the Maple Grove Nat'ls yesterday. I was entered and raced.... As it has been for a few years, there was NO tech before we ran and I saw NO spot checks in the lanes. Nothing.... I also saw no fuel and weight check for Stock and SS but I may have missed that if they did it. One Stocker did have to pull a head and it was for going more than 1.2 under....he passed and gets HP..... At Division races they always inspect cars before you get to race but its generally a routine lookover and check of safety items. __________________ Rich Biebel S/C 1479 Stock 147R

09-15-2019, 02:57 PM	#9
rick winchester Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: cincinnati ohio Posts: 211 Likes: 315 Liked 208 Times in 35 Posts	Re: Attention Nova 350/255 stock combo. If you have 20k stocker heads and 2k intake you have to much money ……..might need your head checked. Rick. __________________ Rick Winchester Stk 3277

09-15-2019, 04:38 PM	#10
partsbob67 Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: rohnert park,ca Posts: 414 Likes: 11 Liked 79 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Attention Nova 350/255 stock combo. so instead of lowering the indexes again , why not make the hit number 1.40 or 1.50. then every one can race as they please. oh yeah, and lock the rules in for 5 years.no enhancements etc.. __________________ bob beals 7244