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Old 09-15-2019, 05:03 PM   #1
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I don`t know if anything will be done to "level" the playing field in Stock and Super Stock. How NHRA did it in Comp at Maple Grove, was to make Tom Martino`s ( #2 -.716) index go from 8.85 in RD1 to 8.67 (-.180) in the Final. Not sure if it is his personal index and/or if C/SM got whacked, but that's brutal. Spread between #1 (-.740) and #21 (-.498) is .242.
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Old 09-15-2019, 10:58 PM   #2
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If you have 20k stocker heads and 2k intake you have to much money ……..might need your head checked. Rick.
How many of you understand what really goes into a very well developed set of heads? I don't mean the run of the mill good set of heads, I mean the best of the best. It would be NOTHING to have 200 hours in a killer set of heads, in many cases welding is required, on and off the flow bench many many times per port X 16, then theres getting the right castings to start with, it goes on and on. And don't kid yourself flow through the intake tract is every thing on a stocker. What your time worth? As a side note, theres no old school small block Chevy head that responds (flows) like certain castings of the 441 used on that 255 HP combo, head porters know exactly what I'am talking about!

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Old 09-15-2019, 11:28 PM   #3
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"in many cases welding is required, "

Silly me. I didn't know that that was legal. Why don't we just throw all the rules away?

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Old 09-16-2019, 07:26 AM   #4
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How many of you understand what really goes into a very well developed set of heads? I don't mean the run of the mill good set of heads, I mean the best of the best. It would be NOTHING to have 200 hours in a killer set of heads, in many cases welding is required, on and off the flow bench many many times per port X 16, then theres getting the right castings to start with, it goes on and on. And don't kid yourself flow through the intake tract is every thing on a stocker. What your time worth? As a side note, theres no old school small block Chevy head that responds (flows) like certain castings of the 441 used on that 255 HP combo, head porters know exactly what I'am talking about!
and that welding can be detected if NHRA wanted it to be.
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Old 09-15-2019, 12:10 PM   #5
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You guys are just filler for the Fuel idiots and monkey shows. It would be less expensive if everyone stood in a line and pulled their pants down to see who has the biggest you know what. Todays rules for stock are just plain stupid but enjoy. The old days will not return. I would guess the stockers will become Super Stockers some time in the future.
Good idea for a new thread instead of racing junk call it "racers junk".Who's going to post first (#1 qualifier)...lol. gsa612
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Old 09-15-2019, 12:21 PM   #6
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NHRA got rid of the smart and good tech officials. I had hoped Wesley would have made a difference but no not at Indy 2019 ! Cost to much in NHRA's eyes. But I can say I have been around this poop as an official since 1971 or so and it started sometime before 1985. I won't mention names but I have seen it and its gotten worse. I know of one 428 CJ intake manifold that weighs 10 lbs less than a stock one. Its one reason I quit working and I only race bracket races myself close to home and BS on this site as long as Ken will let me. Its not worth it to race stock today to me plus the contingencies are way less than the early 1970's . You guys are just filler for the Fuel idiots and monkey shows. It would be less expensive if everyone stood in a line and pulled their pants down to see who has the biggest you know what. Todays rules for stock are just plain stupid but enjoy. The old days will not return. I would guess the stockers will become Super Stockers some time in the future.
Got rid of or they got old and retired?
Some were replaced...but these are the new days with new cars.
Documentation of S/SS is daunting.

I am just glad am healthy and a car to race the S/SS association races.
Just want to have fun, meet friends, earn some bragging rights.
You can never get a ticket for Bench Racing !

Bracket racing has grew because not everyone wanted a S/SS car.
But our form of racing led to a lot of the technology.
How do you double the power out of factory engine with what you got.

What I liked back in the day was racing Stock every weekend at 75&80 Dragway.
Friday, Saturday and Sunday.

Thinking maybe there is a way to grow S and SS and get back to that.. !
That seem to draw in the local crowd.
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Old 09-15-2019, 01:12 PM   #7
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Got rid of or they got old and retired?
Some were replaced...but these are the new days with new cars.
Documentation of S/SS is daunting.

I am just glad am healthy and a car to race the S/SS association races.
Just want to have fun, meet friends, earn some bragging rights.
You can never get a ticket for Bench Racing !

Bracket racing has grew because not everyone wanted a S/SS car.
But our form of racing led to a lot of the technology.
How do you double the power out of factory engine with what you got.

What I liked back in the day was racing Stock every weekend at 75&80 Dragway.
Friday, Saturday and Sunday.

Thinking maybe there is a way to grow S and SS and get back to that.. !
That seem to draw in the local crowd.
I used to race at 75&80 on Friday nights with a Blue H/S (which is F/S today at a 10.5 lb brake)1969 Corvette in 1970-1971. Then in SS/J in 1972. Back then when were forced to use the stock swing axel assembly. S/S cause to many broken rears and stub axels. It was a 4-speed.....lol. so I gave it up and started to build a SS/IA 1968 Camaro. Usually I was at Capitol Race way on Saturdays and Aquasco on Sundays.
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Got rid of or they got old and retired?
Some were replaced...but these are the new days with new cars.
Documentation of S/SS is daunting.

I am just glad am healthy and a car to race the S/SS association races.
Just want to have fun, meet friends, earn some bragging rights.
You can never get a ticket for Bench Racing !

Bracket racing has grew because not everyone wanted a S/SS car.
But our form of racing led to a lot of the technology.
How do you double the power out of factory engine with what you got.

What I liked back in the day was racing Stock every weekend at 75&80 Dragway.
Friday, Saturday and Sunday.

Thinking maybe there is a way to grow S and SS and get back to that.. !
That seem to draw in the local crowd.
Some got old, some retired, a few died. Marty Barrette (div. 3) and John Bedencamp (Div. 2) died quite a few years ago. Greg X. retired. Not sure about the National Tech Director named Jim Dale but they all were great guys. Life goes on !
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