Engine diapers on S/SS? - Page 3

00SSCamaroZ · 10-04-2019, 09:43 PM

Well I don't think I've ever seen a stocker oil the track. However at the Dutch on Friday afternoon a blue 69 camaro did a moonshot wheelstand and upon landing pitched out what appeared to be the trans blanket. That was something new in my world.

Mike Z

Dinsdale · 10-04-2019, 10:33 PM

We had a Jr. Dragster oil the track this year. Last weekend it was a Stick car that split the trans case. Numerous rear end explosions, auto trans blowups, oil line leaks and rad hose failures. I'd think engine failures are becoming a lot less with improved and accepted parts.

I'm all for safety but how many Diapers should be on a race car anyway. If you want to run one then fine, but I don't, probably can't fit one and don't think making them mandatory is a good move.

Doug Walker · 10-05-2019, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 00SSCamaroZ

Well I don't think I've ever seen a stocker oil the track. However at the Dutch on Friday afternoon a blue 69 camaro did a moonshot wheelstand and upon landing pitched out what appeared to be the trans blanket. That was something new in my world.

Mike Z

Are you referring to this ?? Blue Camaro was in the left lane. Debris was in the right lane, but may have originated from either car.
Does not look like 1969 Camaro to me, but maybe more than one car pitched its safety gear off mid track.
First time I'd ever seen this happen.

Mike Jones · 10-06-2019, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Grubbs

Depends?

He said Depends

00SSCamaroZ · 10-06-2019, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Doug Walker

Are you referring to this ?? Blue Camaro was in the left lane. Debris was in the right lane, but may have originated from either car.
Does not look like 1969 Camaro to me, but maybe more than one car pitched its safety gear off mid track.
First time I'd ever seen this happen.

That looks like it. Thought it was a 69. Obviously not. Guess I am not a good eye witness.

Mike Z

rboyle · 10-06-2019, 09:38 AM

We had a D1 race where 3 Stockers oiled the track during the first Qualifying shot. I myself have oiled it twice. First when I bought the car I was the first car down the track at No Problem and spit a rod out at bat mid track broke the trans driveshaft and pinion yoke too. Shut the track down for almost 2 hours. So yes it does happen.

Larry Hill · 10-07-2019, 07:07 AM

After looking at the B-E body engine, steering, and headers on my stocker, it would be a lot of work and expense. The drag link runs real close to the sump and the bottom of pan, this could be a potential crash if the Kevlar blanket jams the steering. A motor plate would not help the steering situation. A tray might work until a big wheel stand. When that happens on my car it bends the oil pan against the pickup, and bends the transmission pan. The oil pan I have to fix before I make the next run. If new ss headers are needed to complete the ORD I will be done.
All of a sudden cutting bait doesn't look so bad.

Pat6868 · 10-07-2019, 09:37 AM

Stock eliminator- entry level. Mandatory belts every 2 years, mandatory approved collector tethers, now mandatory diapers? Sad to see the so-called evolution of this class.

Dyno · 10-07-2019, 10:14 AM

On a Hemi car with the drag link going through the oil pan (some Chevy ll’s also), I do not know how you could fit a diaper effectively. If NHRA allowed an aftermarket K frame, it might be possible.

Steve Stasko · 10-07-2019, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Larry Hill

After looking at the B-E body engine, steering, and headers on my stocker, it would be a lot of work and expense. The drag link runs real close to the sump and the bottom of pan, this could be a potential crash if the Kevlar blanket jams the steering. A motor plate would not help the steering situation. A tray might work until a big wheel stand. When that happens on my car it bends the oil pan against the pickup, and bends the transmission pan. The oil pan I have to fix before I make the next run. If new ss headers are needed to complete the ORD I will be done.
All of a sudden cutting bait doesn't look so bad.

I must have done something wrong on my '64 Dodge when I put the engine diaper on it. I have the factory K-frame, steering, and torsion bars. Using 1 3/4" Hooker S/C headers (one tube through fenderwell). I fit a universal Jeg's diaper on the car without issue, though I did have to get creative with some of the mounting points for the support straps to hold it up.

I wasn't real fond of putting it on, but when the rules require it (I ran the car in S/ST a few times...ex-SS car), you find a way to make it work if you want to race.

While the Jeg's diaper doesn't provide the best fit, I can only imagine how much better the job would have been had I used something that was designed for the car.

10-04-2019, 09:43 PM	#21
00SSCamaroZ Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 11 Likes: 1 Liked 11 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Engine diapers on S/SS? Well I don't think I've ever seen a stocker oil the track. However at the Dutch on Friday afternoon a blue 69 camaro did a moonshot wheelstand and upon landing pitched out what appeared to be the trans blanket. That was something new in my world. Mike Z

10-04-2019, 10:33 PM	#22
Dinsdale Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 313 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Engine diapers on S/SS? We had a Jr. Dragster oil the track this year. Last weekend it was a Stick car that split the trans case. Numerous rear end explosions, auto trans blowups, oil line leaks and rad hose failures. I'd think engine failures are becoming a lot less with improved and accepted parts. I'm all for safety but how many Diapers should be on a race car anyway. If you want to run one then fine, but I don't, probably can't fit one and don't think making them mandatory is a good move. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Dale Posnick

10-06-2019, 09:38 AM	#26
rboyle Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 604 Likes: 1,454 Liked 586 Times in 162 Posts	Re: Engine diapers on S/SS? We had a D1 race where 3 Stockers oiled the track during the first Qualifying shot. I myself have oiled it twice. First when I bought the car I was the first car down the track at No Problem and spit a rod out at bat mid track broke the trans driveshaft and pinion yoke too. Shut the track down for almost 2 hours. So yes it does happen.

10-07-2019, 07:07 AM	#27
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,631 Likes: 1,925 Liked 10,683 Times in 2,223 Posts	Re: Engine diapers on S/SS? After looking at the B-E body engine, steering, and headers on my stocker, it would be a lot of work and expense. The drag link runs real close to the sump and the bottom of pan, this could be a potential crash if the Kevlar blanket jams the steering. A motor plate would not help the steering situation. A tray might work until a big wheel stand. When that happens on my car it bends the oil pan against the pickup, and bends the transmission pan. The oil pan I have to fix before I make the next run. If new ss headers are needed to complete the ORD I will be done. All of a sudden cutting bait doesn't look so bad. __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817 Last edited by Larry Hill; 10-07-2019 at 07:11 AM.

10-07-2019, 09:37 AM	#28
Pat6868 Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 102 Likes: 6 Liked 88 Times in 28 Posts	Re: Engine diapers on S/SS? Stock eliminator- entry level. Mandatory belts every 2 years, mandatory approved collector tethers, now mandatory diapers? Sad to see the so-called evolution of this class.

10-07-2019, 10:14 AM	#29
Dyno Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 915 Likes: 1,132 Liked 682 Times in 203 Posts	Re: Engine diapers on S/SS? On a Hemi car with the drag link going through the oil pan (some Chevy ll’s also), I do not know how you could fit a diaper effectively. If NHRA allowed an aftermarket K frame, it might be possible.