Index Change Rumor

Greenlight · 11-24-2019, 09:51 PM

Have any of the SRAC reps polled any of the racers in their respective division about this rumored change?

Shouldn't all of the racers have some input, rather than it just being thrust upon us?

Has the NHRA informed the reps about possible changes? If so, have the reps had any input?

I'm not saying the idea is good or bad, but as racers who must live with any rule changes I would think our input would be valuable.

If the reps do know about the change and haven't spoken to many of the racers, is that who we really want to represent us?

tstickff · 11-24-2019, 10:05 PM

If it was the Sunday ASRA race that would have been different. If the seventy dollars was that important I wish you would have told me before the round.

Barry, your missing the point, no it wasn’t for $75 dollars actually, is was a few hundred bucks I believe, I can verify with Greg Sutherland since he won, but that’s not the point, if you aren’t concerned with whatever the win money was, because clearly you have that much money, then clearly you could have afforded the test and tune class that was operating that day and not messed up a perfectly good gamblers race because the difference was $25 to enter the gamblers compared to $75 or whatever the test and tune fee was. But yes you beat me, it was your choice to not continue, but for a younger guy like me having fun and enjoying time with my family racing, after your comment took the wind out of my sail and quite frankly the rest of the actual race.

Oh and for the record, I appreciate your offer on the free speed secrets, but you can keep them, we are plenty fast.

B Parker · 11-24-2019, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tstickff

If it was the Sunday ASRA race that would have been different. If the seventy dollars was that important I wish you would have told me before the round.

Barry, your missing the point, no it wasn’t for $75 dollars actually, is was a few hundred bucks I believe, I can verify with Greg Sutherland since he won, but that’s not the point, if you aren’t concerned with whatever the win money was, because clearly you have that much money, then clearly you could have afforded the test and tune class that was operating that day and not messed up a perfectly good gamblers race because the difference was $25 to enter the gamblers compared to $75 or whatever the test and tune fee was. But yes you beat me, it was your choice to not continue, but for a younger guy like me having fun and enjoying time with my family racing, after your comment took the wind out of my sail and quite frankly the rest of the actual race.

Tim even though it's not your business I paid for both. Greg ended up with 200 for the win. I believe I received 125. It was 25 to enter how much did you think it paid. Sorry that I ruined your time with your family and took the wind out of your sails. The next time if there is one I will go into more detail why I decided not to run the final. But I have to ask you if I let you beat me would you have been ok with that. I know if someone was to take a dive for me I wouldn't feel like I really won. And not to upset you again but you have no say on how I race my car. That simple. Didn't think you were one of those that needed a participation trophy.

Oh and for the record, I appreciate your offer on the free speed secrets, but you can keep them, we are plenty fast.

Oh and for your record any time someone that has been racing for a while offers any imput I listen. And the day I think my car is plenty fast is the day I will quite racing Stock. Look forward to seeing you in the other lane.

Jim Whitehead · 11-24-2019, 11:12 PM

For the record I do believe Barry said he is NOT a fan of lowering the indexes, but would like to see NHRA do something about the AFHS.
Barry I think you may be wrong in thinking that no new or young people want to get into stock. My son joined the ranks this year, and I have another one behind him.
You are correct stock is not cheap anymore, however lowering the indexes won't help.
Stock needs to stay as a entry level class. We need to keep it affordable for new and young people to come join us and Learn. Let's show them what it takes to work on a car and let them want to get faster for the heads up races. If we just keep changing indexes and rules just to suite the faster cars we will have NO future.

B Parker · 11-24-2019, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Whitehead

For the record I do believe Barry said he is NOT a fan of lowering the indexes, but would like to see NHRA do something about the AFHS.
Barry I think you may be wrong in thinking that no new or young people want to get into stock. My son joined the ranks this year, and I have another one behind him.
You are correct stock is not cheap anymore, however lowering the indexes won't help.
Stock needs to stay as a entry level class. We need to keep it affordable for new and young people to come join us and Learn. Let's show them what it takes to work on a car and let them want to get faster for the heads up races. If we just keep changing indexes and rules just to suite the faster cars we will have NO future.

Jim I'm not a fan of them lowering the index. I didn't say no one wants to get into stock racing and if you reread my post other than 2nd or third generation racers I myself don't know anyone that wants in. My brothers grandsons want to race. BP

11-24-2019, 09:51 PM	#1
Greenlight Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 215 Likes: 16 Liked 79 Times in 22 Posts	Re: Index Change Rumor Have any of the SRAC reps polled any of the racers in their respective division about this rumored change? Shouldn't all of the racers have some input, rather than it just being thrust upon us? Has the NHRA informed the reps about possible changes? If so, have the reps had any input? I'm not saying the idea is good or bad, but as racers who must live with any rule changes I would think our input would be valuable. If the reps do know about the change and haven't spoken to many of the racers, is that who we really want to represent us?

11-24-2019, 10:05 PM	#2
tstickff Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 469 Likes: 308 Liked 561 Times in 138 Posts	Re: Index Change Rumor If it was the Sunday ASRA race that would have been different. If the seventy dollars was that important I wish you would have told me before the round. Barry, your missing the point, no it wasn’t for $75 dollars actually, is was a few hundred bucks I believe, I can verify with Greg Sutherland since he won, but that’s not the point, if you aren’t concerned with whatever the win money was, because clearly you have that much money, then clearly you could have afforded the test and tune class that was operating that day and not messed up a perfectly good gamblers race because the difference was $25 to enter the gamblers compared to $75 or whatever the test and tune fee was. But yes you beat me, it was your choice to not continue, but for a younger guy like me having fun and enjoying time with my family racing, after your comment took the wind out of my sail and quite frankly the rest of the actual race. Oh and for the record, I appreciate your offer on the free speed secrets, but you can keep them, we are plenty fast. __________________ Tim Stickles

11-24-2019, 11:12 PM	#4
Jim Whitehead Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: MA. Posts: 289 Likes: 154 Liked 150 Times in 41 Posts	Re: Index Change Rumor For the record I do believe Barry said he is NOT a fan of lowering the indexes, but would like to see NHRA do something about the AFHS. Barry I think you may be wrong in thinking that no new or young people want to get into stock. My son joined the ranks this year, and I have another one behind him. You are correct stock is not cheap anymore, however lowering the indexes won't help. Stock needs to stay as a entry level class. We need to keep it affordable for new and young people to come join us and Learn. Let's show them what it takes to work on a car and let them want to get faster for the heads up races. If we just keep changing indexes and rules just to suite the faster cars we will have NO future.