NHRA 2020 Rule Amendment SS Intakes???

Steve Stasko · 12-07-2019, 06:25 PM

I'd like to see a Chevrolet intake on a 383 Mopar. Two very different platforms, and there are plenty of decent enough Big Mopar intakes to not warrant the need for that.

That being said...on the Cadillac topic...Cad500parts.com has the answers to all your Cadillac high-performance questions.

SSDiv6 · 12-07-2019, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Stasko

I'd like to see a Chevrolet intake on a 383 Mopar. Two very different platforms, and there are plenty of decent enough Big Mopar intakes to not warrant the need for that.

That being said...on the Cadillac topic...Cad500parts.com has the answers to all your Cadillac high-performance questions.

When Dave Smith (ProTrans) and his brother ran their 383 'Cuda many years ago, it had an adapted BBC intake.

The BBC has a pitch of 4.84 and the Mopar BB has 4.80. The port runner layout for both is: 00 00

How about fitting a 351-C intake on an FE engine? It can be done with the adapter shown below:

Engine builders and racers can get creative in many ways.
Nevertheless, what is the fuzz all about when they allow sheet metal intakes?

As a matter of fact, Buicks are adapting Mopar intakes.

Myron Piatek · 12-07-2019, 08:36 PM

Didn't Ed Hamburger use to make and adapter to use a small block Chevy intake on a small block Mopar in the '70's?

SSDiv6 · 12-07-2019, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Myron Piatek

Didn't Ed Hamburger use to make and adapter to use a small block Chevy intake on a small block Mopar in the '70's?

As a matter of fact, you are correct! There are a few of those adapters still around.

Steve Stasko · 12-07-2019, 08:51 PM

I am familiar with the port layout of the Big Mopar and the Chevrolet. I was looking at it more from a width aspect, as I know the 383/400 uses a fairly wide intake. I know to use a RB Chrysler intake on a B motor, you need .85" plates on each side of the intake, as I tried a B-1 intake vs. a Mopar M-1 a number of years ago. Bringing up the 383 Mopar/Chevy intake thing is kind of irrelevant though if they aren't even running the car anymore?

As for the Buick...that started in the late 1960's/early 1970...I believe Kennedy Bell made the plates.

BBF67 · 12-08-2019, 10:52 AM

Everyone knows there are bogus cylinder heads out there in S/S. Looks like the Tech dept has finally found a way to rid the class of heads that have been drastically cut at a severe angle on the intake side. Those bogus heads usually used a spacer plate to make up for the difference from the OEM angle. In the 2020 racing season it will be very interesting to see who shows up to race and who does not.

Billy Nees · 12-08-2019, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BBF67

In the 2020 racing season it will be very interesting to see who shows up to race and who does not.

Real Racers will race.

SSDiv6 · 12-08-2019, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Real Racers will race.

What do you mean by "real racers"? Can you elaborate?

In my book, anyone that spends the money and time to race in Stock and Super Stock class, is a real racer.

Billy Nees · 12-08-2019, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SSDiv6

In my book, anyone that spends the money and time to race in Stock and Super Stock class, is a real racer.

You hold that thought if it makes you feel better.

SSDiv6 · 12-08-2019, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BBF67

Everyone knows there are bogus cylinder heads out there in S/S. Looks like the Tech dept has finally found a way to rid the class of heads that have been drastically cut at a severe angle on the intake side. Those bogus heads usually used a spacer plate to make up for the difference from the OEM angle. In the 2020 racing season it will be very interesting to see who shows up to race and who does not.

Angle milling heads has been a machine shop operation since the 1960's. Nothing new.

There are even automotive machining charts that gives you the average amount of milling required on an intake manifold when you deck and square an engine block and when you mill cylinder heads for proper combustion chamber sizing.

By the way, when the runner volumes are measured, it is done without the spacer. An approach would be to weld the spacer to the intake or use a sheet metal intake. Nevertheless, after decades of allowing the use of intake spacers on intake manifolds and angle milled cylinder heads, they are suddenly illegal just months prior to the first race of 2020.

12-07-2019, 06:25 PM	#1
Steve Stasko Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Western PA Posts: 455 Likes: 13 Liked 274 Times in 143 Posts	Re: NHRA 2020 Rule Amendment SS Intakes??? I'd like to see a Chevrolet intake on a 383 Mopar. Two very different platforms, and there are plenty of decent enough Big Mopar intakes to not warrant the need for that. That being said...on the Cadillac topic...Cad500parts.com has the answers to all your Cadillac high-performance questions.

12-07-2019, 08:36 PM	#3
Myron Piatek VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 1,542 Likes: 34 Liked 138 Times in 51 Posts	Re: NHRA 2020 Rule Amendment SS Intakes??? Didn't Ed Hamburger use to make and adapter to use a small block Chevy intake on a small block Mopar in the '70's? __________________ LOCOMOTION Racing

12-07-2019, 08:51 PM	#5
Steve Stasko Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Western PA Posts: 455 Likes: 13 Liked 274 Times in 143 Posts	Re: NHRA 2020 Rule Amendment SS Intakes??? I am familiar with the port layout of the Big Mopar and the Chevrolet. I was looking at it more from a width aspect, as I know the 383/400 uses a fairly wide intake. I know to use a RB Chrysler intake on a B motor, you need .85" plates on each side of the intake, as I tried a B-1 intake vs. a Mopar M-1 a number of years ago. Bringing up the 383 Mopar/Chevy intake thing is kind of irrelevant though if they aren't even running the car anymore? As for the Buick...that started in the late 1960's/early 1970...I believe Kennedy Bell made the plates.

12-08-2019, 10:52 AM	#6
BBF67 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 89 Likes: 0 Liked 8 Times in 4 Posts	Re: NHRA 2020 Rule Amendment SS Intakes??? Everyone knows there are bogus cylinder heads out there in S/S. Looks like the Tech dept has finally found a way to rid the class of heads that have been drastically cut at a severe angle on the intake side. Those bogus heads usually used a spacer plate to make up for the difference from the OEM angle. In the 2020 racing season it will be very interesting to see who shows up to race and who does not.