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Old 01-11-2020, 02:25 AM   #1
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Default Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers

Behind the Hatari car, who knows which is the winningest Pontiac V8 powered GT car ?

Anybody know which cars have won the most nat events.

And the most div races ?

And the most smaller races ?
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Old 01-11-2020, 03:52 AM   #2
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Now I'm gonna need a LOT of help with these old Pontiacs, from guys old enuff to remember those days.

Back around 1961-'62, NHRA came up with some classes which I assume are early versions of the Super Stock class. They had various class designations.

One of the most famous may be the FX classes. I believe it was in '62, when Mickey Thompsons A/FX Tempest won both the Winter Nats & the US Nats.

https://www.dragzine.com/news/drag-r...ac-lemans-afx/

Near as I can tell, the FX class allowed factory engines to be used in car models they did not come in. An example is a Pontiac 421SD engine, in a Tempest.

Don't know exactly what mods, if any were allowed to the engine. That class sounds to me to be similar, in some ways to the modern day GT SS classes.

If anybody here can give exact details of the early FX rules, please do so.

Hayden Profit was driving M/T's Tempest at the '62 Winter Nats. They actually had the car marked FX/A. Lloyd Cox drove it at the US Nats. The car won the class at both races.

Anybody wanna see some old rules ?

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2006u57wp...myEgvaR8KYSowa

http://www.mre-books.com/ct953/superstock1962.html

https://www.hagerty.com/articles-vid...per-duty-quick

It seems that '61 & '62 were important years in SS history.

https://www.facebook.com/FCRMotorspo...0684906992287/

https://www.hotrod.com/articles/fact...ental-detroit/

Pontiac was still a player in the A/FX class in '63.
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Old 01-11-2020, 02:02 PM   #3
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In '61-'62, there were several classes that I assume could be called Super Stock. A few of these were: S/S, OS/S, SS/A, S/SA, A/SS, B/SS, N/SS.

Pontiac had competitive cars in all these classes.
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Default Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers

Another class that would probably be closer to today's SS class would the real early MP classes. I noticed that several of the same type cars that were running A/FX were running A/MP.

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Obviously, the high rpm small cube sbc 2x4 tunnel ram equipped MP cars were something altogether different.
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Arnie Beswick ran cars in lots of classes, including A/SS & B/SS.

https://www.hemmings.com/blog/articl...-man-standing/

https://www.arniebeswick.com/bio.htm

https://www.hotrod.com/articles/arni...mate-underdog/
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Default Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers

Just snagged this pic off Don Kennedy's FB page.

He said it had an SD455 engine.

Would love to have pics & info of more Pontiac powered GT cars I haven't mentioned.

When I saw that pic was taken at the Winston Finals , I decided to take a look at the DRC results of the Finals in Pomona. Saw it listed at the Winter Nats, in '98.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1998#indextop

Also listed at the Phoenix nat event.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1998#indextop

I did see that John Angeles ran a 9.753 in his '69 RAIV Bird, in 2010. Assume it's the quickest reg(non GT) SS car, except for the Clegg's SD455 Birds. Could be wrong. Right now those are the only 3 cars I know of that have run in the 9's. Would welcome info of others.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop
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Old 01-12-2020, 05:37 AM   #7
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Default Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers

Got some more pics from Don Kennedy's FB page.

Good pics of his SD455 '73 Bird.

Also an interesting pic of his 3rd gen GT car. There's another 3rd gen GT car in the near lane. Norman Warling said that was his brother Carroll in that car.

But, the div 5 number is not the one on his SS cars. Just curious as to when that pic was made, who the white car belonged to, was it Pontiac powered, did it ever race & when, & who drove it in competition ?
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